To round off the year, the show takes a slightly different shape.

In this brief episode, John reflects on some of the common themes from conversations in 2025 and says thank you to the guests and listeners who’ve shaped the series. He also looks ahead to what’s coming next.

Thanks for being part of the show. We’ll see you in 2026!

Host: John Howard, Partner at Garwood Growth

In a sector where scaling often leads to external investment or an eventual sale, what does it look like to build a consultancy that grows, stays independent and develops a long-term ownership model for its people?

Olly Purnell is the co-founder of Q5, the organisational health consultancy that has grown from a small London start-up into a global firm operating across multiple regions, all without private equity or a planned exit. Instead of organising their business around an eventual transaction, Olly and his co-founders focused on purpose, long-term stewardship and the belief that advisory is a vocation.

This episode explores the decisions that shaped the firm’s early years and the operating principles that allowed Q5 to scale with focus and consistency. Olly discusses how broadening ownership strengthened commitment across the organisation and why different firms choose different paths depending on the futures they want to build.

John and Olly examine what resilience looks like inside a consultancy. They discuss how leadership choices, cultural discipline and a clear sense of identity help boutique firms compete effectively and why the craft of advisory still matters in an AI-enabled world.

Key discussion points include:

• What it takes to build a consulting firm from zero and the early decisions that matter most
• How to scale a firm organically, without a grand plan
• Why Q5 resisted investment offers and broadened ownership among employees
• How ownership shapes culture, accountability and long-term performance
• Why independence can be a competitive advantage for boutique consultancies
• How AI and technology can elevate the consulting craft without replacing it
• Why advisory remains a vocation and what it means to build a firm designed to last

For founders, partners and leaders who want to build consultancy firms on their own terms, this conversation offers a practical blueprint for independence, culture and long-term value creation.

Host: John Howard, Partner at Garwood Growth
Guest: Olly Purnell, Managing Partner at Q5

In this episode of The Unlocking Value Podcast, John Howard speaks with Pekka Metsaranta, founder and CEO of Sisua Ltd, a consultancy known for stepping in to help clients succeed with their most complex programmes. From M&A integrations to large-scale systems delivery, Sisua operates where clarity and execution matter most.

Just as Sisua thrives amid complexity, Pekka’s own path has been equally demanding. He built Sisua from the ground up without co-founders, delivered work while building the business, and learned the hard way what leadership really means when there’s no safety net. His story is one many consultancy founders will recognise: full of steep learning curves, hard decisions and the discipline to keep going when belief is all you have.

Together, John and Pekka explore what it takes to build a values-led professional services firm in real-world conditions, without shortcuts or illusions.

Key discussion points include:

• What meaningful balance looks like for founders and the practical levers that make it possible
• How to lead with accountability in a collaborative, non-hierarchical culture
• What can happen when you scale internal processes too early
• Why leadership in complexity demands belief and resilience

For founders and leaders building firms in uncertain markets, this is a candid, grounded lesson in navigating tough challenges without losing sight of what matters.

Host: John Howard, Partner at Garwood Growth
Guest: Pekka Metsaranta, CEO of Sisua