Saffet Catovic is the Director of the United Nations Operations for Justice for All, a faith-based, human-rights organization.

Bedi Racule is a nuclear and climate justice advocate from the Pacific - hailing from the Marshall Islands and Pohnpei (Federated States of Micronesia). She began her advocacy journey with MISA4thePacific - a youth grassroots organization, sharing stories of nuclear testing in the Pacific with young people and communities around the world. Bedi currently resides in Fiji and serves as an ecumenical enabler for climate justice at the Pacific Conference of Churches, where she tackles issues related to climate, oceans and the Pacific nuclear legacy. She is also the co-founder of the Bok im Na youth project, and co-chair of the Nuclear Truth Project.

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Show music by Penguinmusic, song Better Day.

In this episode, guest Sai Bourotho with Automated Decision Research discusses Stop Killer Robots.

Stop Killer Robots is a growing global coalition of more than 250 civil society organizations working together to prevent digital dehumanization, build a better society, and overcome inequalities and systems of oppression through the creation of legally binding rules on autonomy in weapons systems.