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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Nick Jain — co-founder of Eagle Rock CFO Services, Harvard Business School graduate, former professional investor, and finance leader who has helped scale businesses across trucking, software, and e-commerce to over $100M in revenue.

Nick brings a refreshingly analytical and unconventional perspective to leadership, challenging many of the “feel-good” business rules people are often taught early in their careers. From questioning the popular advice to simply “be yourself” as a leader, to explaining why successful businesses should be built through small experiments instead of big all-or-nothing bets, Nick shares practical lessons shaped by years of experience leading finance and operations teams.

This conversation dives into the realities of leadership, decision-making, entrepreneurship, and what it looks like to build an AI-native consulting business from the ground up. Nick also opens up about the challenges of sticking to decisions, managing uncertainty, navigating partnership dynamics, and why leadership is often less glamorous and far more methodical than popular culture suggests.

Beyond business strategy, Nick shares his thoughts on AI, entrepreneurship, and how math, experimentation, and calm decision-making shape both his work and mindset.

We explore:

Why the advice to “just be yourself” can actually hurt aspiring leaders

Why successful leaders are often more analytical than charismatic

The struggle of sticking with decisions after they’ve been made

How Nick and his co-founder are building an AI-native advisory firm

Why smaller, highly efficient businesses may outperform traditional large firms

The realities of co-founder communication, role clarity, and partnership agreements

Nick’s perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t always about confidence, charisma, or bold speeches — often, it’s about clear thinking, thoughtful experimentation, and building systems that let businesses grow smarter.

If you’ve ever questioned traditional leadership advice or wondered what modern entrepreneurship really looks like in the AI era, this episode will give you a lot to think about.

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Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon

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Guest Details:

Company: Eagle Rock CFO Services

Website: https://eaglerockcfo.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjain/

If you’re building, leading, or scaling a business — and want a more practical, grounded perspective on leadership, finance, and experimentation-driven growth — this conversation offers both strategy and insight.

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Leadership doesn’t have to mean carrying everything alone.

If your business is growing, but somehow everything still lands back on your desk, it may not be a time management issue — it may be the decisions shaping your leadership.

Join my FREE live webinar where I’ll walk you through 3 key decisions that help leaders increase revenue without adding more hours to their schedule.

👉 Save your spot here: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com

Stop being the bottleneck. Start leading with more clarity, focus, and freedom.

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Kevin O'Neill — a multi-business owner who has built and scaled several seven-figure lifestyle businesses in the water sports industry.

Kevin brings a raw, unfiltered, and refreshingly honest perspective on entrepreneurship, sharing the highs, the failures, and the unconventional path that led him to success. From growing up in Detroit with no connection to boating, to building a thriving water-based business empire, his story challenges the idea that success follows a straight line.

He opens up about navigating ADHD, overcoming self-doubt, and learning business the hard way — through experience, mistakes, and relentless curiosity. Kevin also breaks down why blindly following traditional business advice (like over-leveraging or rigid systems too early) can actually hurt your growth.

Beyond business, Kevin’s personality shines through — whether it’s raving in his late 40s, traveling the world, or building a life centered around freedom, fun, and family.

This conversation dives deep into what it really takes to build something meaningful — and why knowing yourself is the ultimate advantage.

We explore:

Why “leverage everything” isn’t always smart business advice

The reality of imposter syndrome — even at high levels of success

Why financial literacy is a skill many entrepreneurs learn too late

Building businesses that fund your lifestyle — not consume it

The importance of hiring people better than you

Why authenticity and self-awareness beat traditional leadership playbooks

The power of exploring multiple business models instead of sticking to one lane

How confidence is built by being in the room — even when you feel out of place

Kevin’s story is proof that there’s no single formula for success.

By embracing curiosity, leaning into your strengths, and staying open to opportunity, you can build a life and business that actually works for you — not one dictated by outdated rules.

Connect with me here:

Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon

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Guest Details:

Book: Mate to Millionaire (available on Amazon)

Website: (Coming soon) KevinAndGregLive.com

If you’ve ever felt like you don’t quite fit the “traditional” mold of success — this episode will show you that might actually be your greatest advantage.

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Leadership doesn’t have to mean carrying everything alone.

If your business is growing, but somehow everything still lands back on your desk, it may not be a time management issue — it may be the decisions shaping your leadership.

Join my FREE live webinar where I’ll walk you through 3 key decisions that help leaders increase revenue without adding more hours to their schedule.

👉 Save your spot here: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com

Stop being the bottleneck. Start leading with more clarity, focus, and freedom.

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Dusty Goldson — CEO of Tectonic, a company he built over 25+ years without outside funding, hype cycles, or chasing trends.

Dusty shares a grounded, no-nonsense perspective on leadership and growth, shaped by real-world experience scaling teams, navigating five acquisitions, and building businesses rooted in trust, consistency, and long-term relationships. His approach challenges the idea that success comes from rigid systems or quick wins — instead, he makes the case for clarity, adaptability, and people-first leadership.

From rethinking decision-making styles to navigating the messy realities of acquisitions, Dusty opens up about what actually happens behind the scenes of “successful” businesses — including the expectations that don’t match reality, the people challenges leaders often underestimate, and the importance of self-awareness in high-stakes environments.

Beyond business strategy, this conversation dives into leadership psychology — from managing impulsiveness and fast thinking, to embracing imposter syndrome as a tool for growth rather than something to avoid.

We explore:

- Why “bullet point thinking” can limit better decision-making

- The hidden challenges behind acquisitions — especially people and culture

- Why early success can sometimes create long-term problems

- The myth of “we’re all family” in business — and what to believe instead

- Why great leaders focus more on people than processes or platforms

- The importance of self-awareness and moderating your natural tendencies

- Building a culture of accountability — and not tolerating underperformance

- Why solving problems (not selling solutions) is the key to long-term success

- How imposter syndrome can actually be a healthy and necessary signal

- The value of surrounding yourself with people who think differently

Dusty’s perspective is a reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers — it’s about making decisions, learning fast, and staying honest about the realities of building and scaling a business.

If you’ve ever felt the gap between how business is supposed to work and how it actually unfolds in real life — this episode will resonate.

Connect with me here:

Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon

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Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com

Guest Details:

Company: Tectonic

Website: https://teamtectonic.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustygulleson/

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Paul Schrader — an entrepreneur who has built and scaled over a dozen companies across e-commerce, manufacturing, third-party logistics, and emerging digital markets.

Paul shares a powerful and unconventional take on business growth, challenging the long-standing belief that success comes from focusing on just one thing. Instead, he reveals how staying adaptable, spotting shifts early, and building around opportunity has allowed him to grow multiple successful ventures in parallel.

From supplying NASA (yes — even sending fruitcake to space 🚀) to building a 150,000+ square foot operation, Paul’s journey is packed with real-world insights on innovation, leadership, and thinking differently in a rapidly changing world.

The conversation dives into the future of entrepreneurship, the evolution of the creator economy, and how AI is reshaping the way businesses operate. Paul also shares his perspective on leadership, authenticity, and why understanding people—not just processes—is the key to building strong teams.

If you’ve ever questioned traditional business advice or felt like there might be another way to succeed—this episode will challenge your thinking in the best way possible.

We explore:

Why “focus on one thing” might be outdated advice

How to spot opportunities and pivot before it’s too late

The real value of adaptability in modern business

How AI is changing research, decision-making, and productivity

Why authenticity beats “sales tactics” every time

The power of networking and building long-term relationships

Understanding different mindsets in leadership (people vs. process)

Why success doesn’t look the same for everyone

The future of the creator economy—and where it’s heading next

Paul’s perspective is a refreshing reminder that there’s no single path to success. By staying curious, adaptable, and open to opportunity, you can build something dynamic, resilient, and uniquely your own—without being boxed in by conventional rules.

Connect with me here:
Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon
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Webinar: https://webinar.kimmillerhershon.com/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=paul+D%E2%80%99shreder

Guest Details:
Company: https://minimusproducts.biz
Fulfillment: https://minimusfulfillment.biz

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Angelo D’Amico, a CEO leading a multimillion-dollar manufacturing company.

Angelo brings a rare combination of real-world executive experience and deep thinking, shaped by his background in economics and philosophy. Instead of offering surface-level leadership advice, he challenges the way we think about ambition, pressure, and what success actually costs behind the scenes.

This conversation goes beyond the highlight reel of business success and gets into the realities leaders face every day—decisions, trade-offs, and the internal battles that don’t get talked about enough.

From navigating high-stakes environments to questioning conventional definitions of success, Angelo offers a thoughtful and honest perspective for anyone building, leading, or striving for more.

We explore:

The hidden cost of ambition and success

How leaders navigate pressure in real business environments

Why success isn’t always what it looks like from the outside

The role of values in decision-making at the highest levels

How philosophy and economics shape better leadership thinking

Why there are no easy answers in leadership—only better questions

The importance of honest conversations in business and life

Rethinking what it means to build a meaningful career

Angelo’s perspective is a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about being willing to ask better questions, think deeper, and lead with intention in a complex world.

Connect with me here:
Website: https://www.kimmillerhershon.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmillerhershon
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