In this deeply honest conversation, Pastor Derwin Gray and renowned neuroscientist Dr. Daniel Amen explore God’s pathway to healing for those carrying trauma, shame, and persistent inner pain. Drawing from both Scripture and neuroscience, they discuss how healing begins with honesty—naming what happened—and continues through renewing the mind, accepting hard realities, and choosing to live from God’s love rather than striving for it. Pastor Derwin shares personal stories of forgiveness, including his journey to forgive his father, emphasizing that Jesus meets us in our wounds and can turn our scars into testimonies of grace. Dr. Amen highlights the brain’s capacity for renewal and the importance of aligning scientific insights with biblical truth. Ultimately, the episode invites listeners into a healing journey marked by forgiveness, freedom, and transformed relationships, calling the church to be a community that transfers healing, not hurt, as people experience God’s grace and restoration.

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In this episode of the Transforming the Church Podcast, Pastor Derwin Gray sits down with best-selling author, preacher, and church leader Hosanna Wong for an honest and hope-filled conversation about healing, grace, and leadership. Drawing from Hosanna’s powerful personal story—growing up in a family transformed by Jesus amid addiction and street life—the episode explores the urgent need for healing within the church and among its leaders.

Derwin and Hosanna discuss the dangers of unaddressed wounds, the difference between behavioral modification and true transformation, and the role of grace in overcoming shame while discussing Pastor Derwin's new book It's Time To Heal. With wisdom rooted in Scripture, real-life experiences, and neuroscience, they challenge leaders to seek healing for themselves so they can lead others from a place of authenticity and freedom. The episode highlights practical steps for embracing God’s healing, underscores the importance of inviting Jesus into our deepest pain, and offers encouragement for anyone longing to walk in wholeness.

Listeners will come away inspired to pursue genuine healing, equipped with practical insight, and reminded that the journey toward restoration begins not with self-sufficiency, but with surrender to the amazing grace of Jesus.

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What if the very pain that has broken you could become the pathway to your greatest healing? In this powerful conversation, Pastor Derwin and Vicki unpack the heart behind Pastor Derwin's new book, *It's Time to Heal: Four God-Given Steps to Restore What Life Has Shattered*—a message born not from theory, but from their own raw, courageous journey through trauma and transformation. Drawing from John 5:6, where Jesus asks a man paralyzed for decades, "Do you want to be made well?" Pastor Derwin reveals that healing begins with a vulnerable yes—because Jesus doesn't heal a future version of us, He heals the real us. With wisdom rooted in both Scripture and neuroscience, Pastor Derwin reframes suffering through the lens of post-traumatic growth, reminding us that the villain and the hero share the same origin story: pain. The difference is what you do with it. Vicki's voice adds tender authenticity, affirming that healing isn't linear, but God wastes nothing. Don't stay stuck in familiar pain—pre-order multiple copies of *It's Time to Heal* today and begin passing down healing instead of hurt to the next generation, for the glory of King Jesus.

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What if the wounds you've been quietly carrying your whole life were never meant to stay hidden? In this powerful conversation, Pastor Derwin and Licensed Professional Counselor Jim Cress explore the transformative message at the heart of Pastor Derwin's new book, *It's Time to Heal: Four God-Given Steps to Restore What Life Has Shattered*. Drawing from Romans 12:2—"Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will"—Pastor Derwin reveals how neuroscience is catching up to what Scripture has proclaimed for centuries: real healing transforms us from the inside out. Through his own story of trauma, shame, and breakthrough, he unpacks the HEAL framework—Honest about what happened, Expect turbulence, Accept what took place, and Live from love, not for love—showing that true wholeness isn't behavioral modification but a new creation encounter with Jesus. As Jim affirms, this integration of theology, psychology, and neurobiology isn't compromise—it's wisdom. If you feel stuck, ashamed, or secretly broken, Jesus is already at the table with a cup of coffee saying, "I already know, and I love you." Pre-order *It's Time to Heal* today and take your first step toward freedom.

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What does it look like when followers of Jesus who love the same Lord arrive at the table holding vastly different political convictions? Pastor Derwin, alongside Dr. Frank Turek and Dr. Charlie Dates, opens a courageous and deeply needed conversation about faith, ethnicity, and political engagement—reminding us that the church is not a building but a blood-bought people of King Jesus, loved by the Father and empowered by the Spirit. Drawing from John 13, Dr. Dates grounds the entire dialogue in a love "based upon the virtue of the giver, not the worthiness of the recipient"—a love the Black church has embodied even toward a nation that did not love them in return. Dr. Turek challenges believers to engage government as seriously as they engage family and church, because politics directly shapes our ability to preach the gospel. Together, all three voices refuse easy answers, holding both prophetic critique and humble empathy, urging Christians to see one another's pain before dismissing one another's conclusions. This conversation is a call to you—don't retreat into comfortable tribalism. Lean in, listen deeply, and let the love of Christ be the politics that transforms your neighborhood, your city, and your world.

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What if the wounds you've carried since childhood are not the end of your story, but the very place where God begins to write something new? Pastor Derwin and Carly open this conversation with raw honesty about mental illness, trauma, and the lies that take root in our minds when pain goes unaddressed. Carly shares her journey through depression, PTSD, self-harm, and a nine-month stay at Mercy—a faith-based residential home—where a counselor gently helped her identify the lies she believed about herself and replace them with Scripture-grounded truth. Pastor Derwin weaves in the science of neuroplasticity alongside Romans 12:2 "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect" showing that healing is not a microwave moment but a crock-pot process of daily, faithful confession. Together, they remind us that knowing theology is not the same as letting it reach our souls. Your scars are not your shame—they are your testimony. Pre-order *It's Time to Heal* today and take your first step toward restoration.

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What happens when we refuse to let our circumstances dictate our spiritual vitality? Pastors Derwin and Christine reveal the profound truth that while the world grows increasingly barren, followers of Christ are called to flourish like olive trees—thriving where nothing else can grow. Drawing from David's declaration in Psalm 52, "I am like a green olive tree flourishing in the house of God," Christine shares how she discovered this powerful metaphor while standing before a sacred olive tree in Athens, the only living thing growing amid devastation. Her insight challenges our tendency to outsource our joy and peace to external circumstances, waiting for the world to improve before we step into God's promises. The conversation exposes how many believers have become "unbelieving believers"—doctrinally sound but practically faithless. True faith isn't about understanding everything; it's about trusting God's goodness even in crushing seasons, because just as olives must be pressed to produce oil, our trials produce the anointing that breaks chains. This isn't about comfort Christianity—it's about daily denying ourselves, taking up our cross, and laboring to enter God's rest. Stop waiting for perfect conditions to flourish. Your breakthrough isn't dependent on the world getting better—it's rooted in Christ who never changes.

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What happens when political influencers we've never met divide us from family members we've known our whole lives? Pastor Derwin confronts this troubling reality, reminding us that in our polarized America, Christians must remember their ultimate allegiance isn't to any political party—it's to King Jesus who bled, died, and rose again for us. Drawing from Galatians 3:27-28, Derwin powerfully declares that we're not clothed with political labels but with Christ himself, transcending ethnic, economic, and gender divisions that the world uses to separate us. He challenges listeners to ask themselves: are you influenced by the Holy Spirit or by paid political podcasters? Through compelling examples from Dietrich Bonhoeffer's resistance in Nazi Germany and Dr. Martin Luther King's kingdom-centered activism, Derwin shows how Scripture and prayer must shape us more than news cycles. He calls us to practice "kingdom politics"—loving God and neighbor—while guarding against political idolatry that destroys from within. Like Nelson Mandela choosing reconciliation over bitterness, we must be peacemakers in a shouting world. America's future doesn't depend on elections but on whether God's people stay faithful to their heavenly citizenship. Don't let political polarization rob you of your Christ-centered identity—choose to be salt and light in our divided world today.

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