John checks in fresh off a trip to Maine, where the lobster is great and the golf is classic New England. Jeff counters with his time teaching at the ultra‑exclusive Yellowstone Club in Montana — mountain golf, thin air, and views that make you forget you just chunked a wedge.

Donald Ross & The Art of Greens That Make You Cry
The guys dive into Donald Ross’s legendary greens — the ones that look innocent until your ball starts rolling like it’s late for a meeting. They compare Ross’s style with Pete Dye’s “I dare you” intimidation and McKenzie’s artistic, flowing layouts.
Jeff previews his upcoming West Coast McKenzie tour, which John immediately tries to invite himself on.

Renovations, Reconstructions & Golden Age Reboots
Jeff talks Spyglass renovations and a reconstructed McKenzie course in Wisconsin. John wonders what it would be like to play a 1920s design built with modern machinery — old strategy meets new bulldozers.

The Lido, Sand Valley & Modern Classics
The guys geek out over the original Lido — a C.B. MacDonald/McKenzie/Raynor masterpiece — and its modern recreation at Sand Valley. They hit on courses that became famous fast:
Bandon Dunes
Whistling Straits
Payne’s Valley (aka “Tiger’s scenic roller coaster”)

The Tillinghast Tour Idea
Jeff rattles off Tillinghast courses like he’s reading from a phone book. John suggests a “Tillinghast Tour,” the golf‑nerd equivalent of following the Grateful Dead around the country. They compare it to Dye, Palmer, and Norman tours and swap favorite designer quotes — including Rocco Mediate’s classic Dye jab.

Design Philosophy & How Not to Get Tricked
Jeff breaks down fairway bunkering, hidden landing zones, and greens that wiggle like a toddler on sugar. They talk about how caddies can save your round on visually deceptive layouts — assuming you actually listen to them.

Mountain Golf & Wildlife Cameos
Jeff shares stories from Pine Canyon in Flagstaff, where the scenery is gorgeous and the wildlife occasionally decides it owns the fairway.

The Big Idea: East‑to‑West Golf Trip
John pitches an October RV golf adventure from the East Coast to the West Coast. Jeff pretends to think about it. John invites Chris Mascaro to join a future show, because every good golf trip needs at least one guy who brings snacks.

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