Ryan Callaghan—known to millions through MeatEater and now President & CEO of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers—joins Daniel Gates for one of the most important conservation conversations of the year.

From his beginnings as a Montana hunting guide and First Lite employee to helping build MeatEater and now leading one of North America's largest conservation organizations, Ryan explains why protecting hunting, fishing, public lands, and the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation requires more than buying a hunting license—it requires action.

Together, Ryan and Dan discuss:

• Ryan's journey from guide to conservation leader
• Behind-the-scenes stories from the early days of MeatEater
• Why coalition building is the future of conservation
• Public lands, access, and the biggest threats facing hunters today
• Oregon's IP 28 and what it could mean nationwide
• Colorado's Constitutional Right to Hunt & Fish initiative
• How hunters, anglers, ranchers, agriculture, recreation groups, and public land users can work together instead of being divided
• Why advocacy matters just as much as time spent in the field

If you care about hunting, fishing, conservation, wildlife management, public lands, or the future of the outdoors, this is an episode you don't want to miss.

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00:00 Introduction & Mission to Save the Hunt
00:43 Meet Ryan Callaghan
01:32 Ryan's Background & Growing Up in Montana
04:00 Building First Lite & Early Conservation Work
07:00 Joining MeatEater & Leading Backcountry Hunters & Anglers
09:20 New Fatherhood & Life Updates
10:35 How Ryan Ended Up at MeatEater
18:30 From Outdoor Jobs to Conservation Leadership
23:45 Why Hunting Advocacy Matters
25:45 Coalition Building Over Division
28:10 Lessons from Ranching Communities
32:40 Why Hunters Must Stop Fighting Each Other
33:20 Public Lands & Responsible Recreation
37:15 Politics vs. Policy
40:05 Supporting Businesses that Support Hunting
41:40 Conservation, Agriculture & Finding Common Ground
45:30 Responsible Resource Development
50:45 Oregon IP 28 Explained
57:30 Colorado's Right to Hunt & Fish Movement
1:03:30 Why Join Backcountry Hunters & Anglers?
1:06:20 Building Stronger Conservation Coalitions
1:12:20 Volunteerism & Stewardship
1:15:40 Reaching Non-Hunters Through Conservation
1:17:45 Why Wildlife Management Shouldn't Be Decided by Emotion
1:20:00 Final Thoughts & Call to Action

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What does it take to build one of the most recognizable brands in hunting while becoming one of the strongest voices for wildlife conservation?

In this episode of Through the Gates, Dan Gates sits down with legendary hunter, entrepreneur, conservationist, and Primos Hunting founder Will Primos for one of the most personal and insightful interviews he's ever given.

Will shares the incredible story behind building Primos Hunting from a garage startup into one of the biggest names in the outdoor industry. He discusses the evolution of game calls, hunting videos, elk calling, turkey hunting, business leadership, and how timing, innovation, and authenticity changed hunting forever.

More importantly, Will explains why science-based wildlife management, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, and educating the non-hunting public are more important today than ever before.

• The incredible story behind founding Primos Hunting

• Building a hunting company from a garage

• How VHS tapes revolutionized hunting education

• Why authenticity built one of hunting's biggest brands

• The evolution of turkey, deer and elk calling

• Product innovation inside Primos

• Entrepreneurship lessons from growing a national company

• The importance of habitat conservation

• Why science—not emotion—must guide wildlife management

• Educating non-hunters about conservation

If you believe in conserving wildlife through science-based management, responsible hunting, and protecting the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, be sure to subscribe and join us for future episodes.

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00:00 Introduction

00:44 Meet Will Primos

01:39 Growing up and early influences

06:57 Starting Primos Hunting in a garage

09:58 Audio cassettes that changed hunting

11:42 The birth of hunting videos

17:06 Timing, innovation & entrepreneurship

18:02 Conservation begins with education

20:31 Building the Primos brand

22:00 Expanding beyond turkey calls

27:58 Product innovation & Trigger Stick

37:50 Conservation becomes the mission

42:58 Teaching the next generation

48:59 Ballot box biology & public education

53:24 Challenges facing hunting today

56:10 Why everyone impacts wildlife habitat

1:00:51 Future hunting plans & favorite adventures

1:05:03 Final thoughts from Will Primos

1:06:03 Colorado Outfitters Association

1:06:50 Mintern Anglers

1:07:07 Rustic Living

1:08:09 Outro

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Colorado's wildlife management is at a crossroads.

In this episode of Through the Gates, Dan Gates breaks down one of the most consequential Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission meetings in recent memory and explains why sportsmen, anglers, conservationists, landowners, and anyone who values science-based wildlife management should be paying attention.

From controversial furbearer bag limit decisions to growing concerns about politics overriding wildlife science, this episode explains what happened during the July Commission meeting, why those decisions matter, and how they connect to Colorado's proposed Constitutional Right to Hunt and Fish (Initiative 302).

Dan discusses:

• The recent CPW Commission decisions on furbearer regulations

• Why science-based wildlife management is under increasing pressure

• The role of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation

• Why the constitutional amendment does not remove management authority from Colorado Parks and Wildlife

• The dangers of ballot-box biology

• Why hunters and anglers need to become more engaged before future wildlife decisions are made

Whether you're a hunter, angler, wildlife professional, or simply someone who believes wildlife should be managed using science instead of emotion or politics, this conversation provides important context for the future of conservation in Colorado.

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