Jimmy Conrad, Charlie Davies, and Tony Meola return with a deeper dive into the fallout from Matt Crocker’s sudden exit as U.S. Soccer sporting director, moving beyond the breaking news to unpack what the role actually demands, why progress on youth development has stalled, and whether anyone can truly fix one of American soccer’s most persistent problems (03:08).

From there, the guys discuss the U.S. Open Cup's chaotic and cupset-filled Round of 32 (31:40), a historic night in Mexico as Nashville became the first MLS side to win at the Estadio Azteca, and whether LAFC are now the team to beat in the Concacaf Champions Cup (40:32). Plus, shockwaves in South Florida as Javier Mascherano exits Inter Miami - what’s really going on behind the scenes (49:04)?

where Americans take center stage in the Copa del Rey final: can Pellegrino Matarazzo lead Real Sociedad to glory, or will Johnny Cardoso’s Atletico Madrid cap off an incredible week after booking their place in the Champions League semifinals (1:00:37)?

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