#120

Josh sits down for a quickfire episode with Dan Siegelman, a New Jersey native and JWU alum who cut his teeth working for industry heavyweights like Stephen Starr, Michael Mina, and the late Michael Chiarello. Currently leading the culinary operations for El Camino, a high-volume Mexican concept in Florida, Dan shares his insights on the shifting restaurant real estate landscape in Miami and his deep dive into authentic Mexican cuisine, highlighting the complex sauce work and diverse dried chilies his team utilizes daily.

The conversation moves into the rapid-fire round where Dan reveals why he despises the word "heard" on the line, the absolute tragedy of losing his physical recipe notebooks to a late-night bag theft, and why the fat from braised short ribs is the most underutilized byproduct in professional kitchens. He also shares a hilarious (and highly embarrassing) hazing story involving "club baby seal" from his time as a young sous chef at Bottega, his unapologetic method for a cast-iron Texas Toast grilled cheese, and a crucial leadership lesson about stepping back and letting your team fail so they can ultimately grow.

Timestamps

01:48 Dan's background and working for Stephen Starr and Michael Mina

04:24 The Miami rent crisis and its impact on independent restaurants

08:18 Menu R&D, Salsa Macha, and utilizing diverse Mexican chilies

13:00 The devastating story of losing years of recipe notebooks to a theft

21:25 The best dish he ever ate: The French Laundry's suckling pig

23:25 Giving flowers to Alex Lee and John Sergi

25:27 Why kitchens waste too much root vegetable tops and braising fat

29:04 An embarrassing hazing story involving Michael Chiarello and a seafood order

32:40 The specific technique for a cast-iron Texas Toast grilled cheese

34:37 A leadership lesson on micromanagement and letting your team fail

Links and resources 📌

Visit meez: https://www.getmeez.com

Follow meez on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getmeez

Follow Josh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshlsharkey/?hl=en

Follow Josh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-sharkey-406965b/

Visit El Camino: https://modernrestaurantgroup.com/el-camino-locations/

Follow Dan Siegelman on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chef5.0/?hl=en

Follow Dan Siegelman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-siegelman-b4a44370/

#119.

Josh sits down with regulars Matthew and Michael Jacober, along with special guest Eli Feldman, a Boston-based restaurateur and AI advocate. The group dives into a wide-ranging conversation that starts with the prestige of 17th-generation winemaking and quickly shifts into the high-stakes world of modern hospitality. They explore the Noma pop-up in LA, debating whether a $1,500-a-head experience funded by American Express is a genuine culinary event or a "state of mind" marketed for brand clout.

Eli shares a fascinating deep dive into his "Bite" and "Fails" philosophies, detailing how he used AI to analyze kitchen line movements and KDS data to slash ticket times by 75%. The conversation takes a serious turn as the group shares legal war stories involving real estate disputes, blood on the walls, and the emotional complexities of employee-employer breakups. They close with a sobering look at the "Barbell Economy"—the disappearance of mid-tier restaurants in favor of private equity-backed groups and the impending wave of white-collar workers entering the hospitality industry out of necessity.

Links and resources 📌

Visit meez: https://www.getmeez.com

Follow meez on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getmeez

Follow Josh on instagram: @joshlsharkey

Visit Blanket: https://www.blanket.app/

Visit The Tippling House: https://thetipplinghousechs.com/

Follow Michael: @michaeljacober

Follow Matthew: @conbeazie

Follow Eli's Substack: https://shybird.substack.com/

Timestamps

01:56 The history of Domain Jean-Louis Chave and 17th-generation winemaking

03:23 Introducing Eli Feldman: Restaurant operator and AI strategist

06:54 The $1,500 Noma pop-up and the role of Amex in exclusivity

10:35 Is Noma a place or a concept that can travel?

22:43 The "Somification" of everything: Why contextual knowledge is the ultimate commodity

25:41 Using Meta glasses for hands-free recipe development in the kitchen

27:58 How Eli used Claude to reduce ticket times by 75% in Fenway

31:19 The $200-a-month digital leadership team for restaurants

33:47 Real Estate War Stories: MJ’s nightmare with blood on the walls

39:37 Josh’s lawsuit over tenant improvement allowances

41:38 Matt’s legal battles over parking spots and partnership breakups

59:02 The "Barbell Economy" and the homogenization of the restaurant industry

01:03:00 Youth unemployment and the coming wave of tech workers entering hospitality

#118.

Josh sits down for a quickfire episode with John Adler, the Vice President of Culinary at Blue Apron, now part of the Wonder platform. They discuss John's massive transition from the high-precision world of fine dining at restaurants like Per Se and Franny's to managing supply chains for millions of meals at Blue Apron. John opens up about the operational complexities of the Wonder acquisition, negotiating contracts for three million pounds of chicken, and the future of robotic kitchens.

The conversation moves into the Quickfire round where John shares the best dish he ever ate at a tiny grotto in Italy and gives flowers to the underrated chef Juan Cuevas. He explains why truffle oil should be banned from every kitchen and challenges cooks to be more creative with food waste like herb stems and bread crusts. John recounts a harrowing kitchen disaster involving a plastic deli container melting onto a French cooktop at Per Se. Finally, he breaks down his exact, science-backed method for the perfect grilled cheese sandwich.

Links and resources 📌

Visit meez: https://www.getmeez.com

Follow meez on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getmeez

Follow Josh on instagram: @joshlsharkey

Follow John: @johniadler and Linkedin Here

Check out: Blue Apron

Timestamps:

01:25 The Wonder acquisition of Blue Apron and cross-pollinating teams

03:24 Transitioning from fine dining to negotiating 3 million pounds of chicken

06:56 Wonder innovation, sous vide chicken, and robotic woks

08:24 Chad Labs and the mathematics of cooking at Per Se

12:08 The best dish John ever ate: Il Grotto di Corignan

18:20 Why Juan Cuevas is the most underrated chef

20:26 Banning truffle oil from the kitchen

21:28 The most wasted ingredients: stems and crusts

24:30 The full story of the melting deli container on the Per Se flattop

28:13 The specific technique for the perfect John Adler grilled cheese