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In episode #13 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Joel Griffith, founder of browserless, a cloud-based headless browser-as-a-service platform that allows developers to run automated browser tasks.

Joel Griffith didn’t start in tech, he was a professional jazz musician.

Today, he runs browserless, a browser automation infrastructure powering AI agents, bots, scraping systems, and developer tools worldwide.

In this episode, we cover:

• What “headless browser” actually means (without jargon)

• Why Joel chose to bootstrap instead of raising VC

• Growing to $1M ARR without a marketer

• Open source as a growth engine

• Rewriting the entire product to eliminate technical debt

• AI, automation, and whether bots are good or bad

• The emotional reality of hiring, firing, and founder life

If you're building a devtool, infra SaaS, or considering rewriting your codebase - this one’s for you.

Joel Griffith - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-griffith-93933332/

Browserless - https://www.browserless.io

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