Theologian and cultural commentator Jonathan Pageau joins The Winston Marshall Show for a profound discussion on meaning, myth, and the crumbling foundations of the post-war consensus.

Pageau argues that the secular order built after WWII—rooted in liberalism, materialism, and the rejection of transcendent values—is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions. As old narratives dissolve, chaos rushes in to fill the void: identity politics, technocracy, and ideological extremism.

They explore the spiritual cost of modernity, the dangers of trying to build a society without sacred stories, and why the breakdown of shared mythos is leaving the West vulnerable to civilizational decay.

All this—rituals, relativism, revolution, and the desperate search for meaning in a world that has forgotten its soul…

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Chapters

2:39 Reframing World War II and Its Consensus

43:28 Emerging Narratives and Historical Revisionism

58:21 The Dichotomy of Nationalism and Globalism

1:05:41 The Role of Symbols in Cultural and Political Narratives

1:08:54 Online Phenomenon and Political Parties

1:15:43 Role of Christianity and Identity

1:21:34 Nationalism and Empire vs. Modern Nation-State

1:24:15 Closing Thoughts

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Documentary maker and journalist Tim Samuels joins The Winston Marshall Show for a thoughtful and challenging conversation on masculinity, identity, and the unique crisis facing white men in the modern West due to DEI.

Samuels explores how white working-class men are increasingly left behind—struggling with poor mental health, social disconnection, and a sense of being vilified in mainstream discourse.

They discuss the collapse of traditional male roles, the decline of industrial jobs, and the lack of public sympathy for a group often portrayed as privileged, yet facing rising suicide rates and dwindling prospects.

All this— forgotten communities, identity taboos, and the silent suffering of men who no longer recognise the world they’re in…

Watch first episode of 'White Men Can't Work' here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-iSxM8Xt8o

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Chapters

0:00 Intro & Context

3:14 What Is DEI? Origins & Evolution

6:14 The Cultural Marxism Framework

10:02 Whiteness Training in the NHS

12:49 The Power Dynamic in Therapy

15:57 The Failure of DEI Programs

19:08 Corporate Panic & Public Pressure

21:39 The $14 Billion DEI Industry

28:21 The Impact on the Police & Military

36:45 Workplace Fear & Self-Censorship

40:23 Case Study: Academia & Cancel Culture

42:02 Generational Divide on Free Speech

43:22 Disenfranchised Men & Populism

46:41 Can Reform Politics Fill the Void?

49:00 Closing Thoughts

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Author and broadcaster Matthew Syed joins me on The Winston Marshall Show for a sharp takedown of the post-colonial guilt underlying the decision making of Britain’s governing elite, Britain’s looming debt crisis, the case for diversity and the decline of reason in Western discourse.

Syed dismantles the lazy assumptions behind identity politics, arguing that equality of opportunity has been hijacked by a culture obsessed with group identity. He warns that diversity, when divorced from excellence, becomes a hollow virtue—and that critical thinking is being replaced by moral posturing.

Syed delves into Britain's racial discourse, the myth of systemic whiteness, and the dangers of importing American-style race politics into a very different British context.

All this—taboo truths, intellectual cowardice, the tyranny of groupthink, and the fight to restore reason in an age of ideological madness…

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Chapters

0:00 Introduction

2:20 Matthew Saeed's Career and Views on Elite Guilt

13:23 Historical Context and Moral Psychology

22:23 British Colonialism and Its Legacy

31:17 Challenges of Modern British Policy

55:54 The Role of Nationalism and the Nation State

1:00:10 The Impact of Post-Modernism and Critical Theory

1:13:59 The Consequences of Elite Failure and Guilt

1:16:43 Diversity and Unity in Sports and Society

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