Do you worry about a future where your job is replaced by AI? Are you a high earner but never seem to have any money? Would you like to work less and spend more time pursuing joy? Then FIRE might be right for you! Tamara Gilkes Borr delves into the “Financial Independence, Retire Early” movement to find out how to step back from work and what you have to sacrifice to do so.

Topics covered:

• FIRE
• Early retirement
• Financial independence
• environmentalism

Links to articles:

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/05/14/prepare-for-an-ai-jobs-apocalypse

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/05/14/the-jobs-apocalypse-a-very-short-history

https://www.economist.com/business/2024/01/25/why-you-should-never-retire

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