In the final episode of The Underneath, theologian Andrew Cunning takes a close look at truth, story and the more nuanced places around the abortion debate in NI. Taking the Tower of Babel as the central motif, the episode hears from a diverse range of people with experience of Northern Irish evangelicalism and thinks through the complexity of change.

Voices Featured: Marie Howe, Rev David McLaughlin, Linzi Anderson, Rev David Campton, Sarah Williamson, Ian Paisley MP, Neil Dawson, Dr Stuart Mathieson, Peter Lynas, Kellie Turtle, Tre Shepherd, Jan Carson.

Show Notes:
Marie Howe poem: https://poets.org/poem/magdalene-seven-devils
Rev David McLaughlin talk: https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=370145464315233&_rdr

Supporters of the Show: Matthew Allen, Anonymous 

In the third chapter of The Underneath, theologian Andrew Cunning explores the classic NI evangelical theology and language of saved and unsaved, hell and heaven. Drawing from sermons, interviews, poetry and analysis, the episode looks at the emotional impact of teaching on hell, and ultimately turns to a clear example of an In / Out binary in a religious setting: the resolutions reached by the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland in 2018.

Show Notes

Voices Featured: Gareth Hanna, Rev Dr Ian Paisley, Ian Paisley Jnr, Kellie Turtle, Rev Alan Smylie, Rev David Campton, Gwen Heistand, Mandy Cook, Rev Fred Greenfield, Tre Sheppard, Steven Smryl, Naomi Long, Peter Lynas, Linzi Anderson, Sarah Williamson.

Music: Cover of 'Eternal Father, Strong to Save' by Ferna.

Sources:
Rev Dr Ian Paisley, 'The Burning Hell Jesus preached': https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12812123556
Rev Alan Smylie: www.sermonaudio.com/sermon/1121211956347310
Marie Howe 'The Addict': https://voetica.com/voetica.php?collection=2&poet=849&poem=9032
Rev Fred Greenfield: https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=51522105526912

Supporters: Matthew Allen, Anonymous. 

In this edition of The Underneath,  we turn our attention to a debate that raged across NI last year, and one that will continue for some time to come: the move to ban conversion therapy in all its forms.

Listening to evangelical perspectives from ministers, politicians and religious leaders alongside psychotherapists and personal testimony ,  Andrew considers the felt tension between minority rights and the freedom to practice religion. This Chapter delves into the sexuality and the church and leaves some unanswered questions for Chapter Three: The Flood. 

Let's dig in to the underneath and see what lives there.

Show Notes.
Voice Features:  Pastor Jeff Wright,  Jayne Ozanne, Peter Lynas, Jim Wells, John O'Doherty, Rev Bobby Liddle, Naomi Long, Doug Beattie, Linzi Anderson, Kim Walsh, Tre Sheppard, Rev David Campton, Mandy Cook. 

As mentioned in the episode, there are public narratives of personal experiences of conversion therapy. If you are able, I would encourage you to read them: https://www.banconversiontherapy.com/stories

Pastor Jeff Wright full sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EdQRJL5cqQ&t=742s

Jayne Ozanne Full Evidence to Scottish Parliament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6GOWSbd8E

Rev Bobby Liddle Full Sermon: https://legacurry.church/sermons/applying-gods-word-to-human-sexuality/

Full Conversation with Peter Lynas available here: https://patreon.com/andrewcunning?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=creatorshare 

Welcome to The Underneath, a documentary podcast that takes a deep dive into Northern Ireland's evangelical cultures. Over the next couple of months we will be exploring religion, politics, theology and culture with some amazing guests. 

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