What happens when life forces you to stop, take stock and face something far bigger than work?In this episode of The Talking Tradesman, I sit down with Jamie, a plumbing and heating engineer whose journey has taken him from dreams of becoming a footballer, through more than two decades in the trade, to starting his own business and facing a diagnosis of prostate cancer.Find Jamie here - https://www.instagram.com/rla_heating?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Jamie never originally planned on becoming a plumber. At 16, football was the direction he thought his life was heading until injury changed everything. With some firm encouragement from his dad, himself an experienced plumbing and heating engineer, Jamie began a five-year apprenticeship.He hated the first couple of years.But he stuck with it.Over time, the job he never wanted became his career, eventually leading Jamie to take another huge step and launch RLA Heating Limited.We talk about the realities of leaving the security of employment, building a business from scratch, dealing directly with customers and why Jamie now wishes he’d made the jump sooner.But this conversation goes far beyond work.Jamie opens up about being diagnosed with prostate cancer, the treatment that followed and the impact the experience has had on his life.We talk openly about prostate cancer awareness, men’s reluctance to discuss their health, the importance of recognising when something isn’t right and why these conversations need to happen more often.We also look to the future of the heating industry, including changing technology, air conditioning in UK homes and where Jamie believes the trade could be heading next.This is a conversation about work, business, family, health and what really matters when life suddenly puts everything else into perspective.Another honest conversation on The Talking Tradesman.

Comedian Russ Lee joins Russell Payne for a raw, funny and deeply personal conversation about the extraordinary life behind the laughs.Russ’s route into comedy was anything but conventional.Find Russ herehttps://www.instagram.com/russleecomedy?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&stkn=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Growing up in Nottingham , his story takes us through his early years, the choices and experiences that shaped him, brushes with crime, relationships, fatherhood and the twists and turns of a life that eventually led him somewhere he never expected: stand-up comedy.But the defining moment came on Christmas Day, when Russ suffered a devastating brain haemorrhage.Rushed to hospital, his condition was so serious that his wife was told to get the family together because doctors weren’t sure he would survive the night.He did.And coming that close to death forced Russ to look at his life differently.During his recovery, he made a decision that would completely change its direction. He was going to become a stand-up comedian.In this episode, Russ takes us through that journey, from the experiences that shaped the man he became to finding his place on stage and building a career making other people laugh.But, as with so many comedians, there’s much more behind the humour.Russ and Russell talk openly about mental health, resilience, identity, relationships, mistakes, personal growth and what happens when life suddenly reminds you just how fragile it can be. They also explore the changing landscape of comedy, the importance of authenticity and Russ’s passion for supporting mental health charities and using his experiences to help others.There are plenty of laughs, but underneath them is a remarkable story about survival, perspective and second chances.This isn’t simply the story of a comedian.It’s the story of the life that created one.🎙️ The Talking Tradesman Podcast with Russell PayneReal people. Real stories. Honest conversations about life, mental health, adversity and everything that happens behind the public face.

What happens when some of the darkest moments of your life eventually become fuel for making other people laugh?Jimmy O’Neill, better known as The Wigan Joker, joins me for a raw, funny and at times incredibly difficult conversation about the man behind the comedian.Find Jimmy Here - https://www.instagram.com/the_wigan_joker?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Growing up in Wigan, Jimmy’s childhood was overshadowed by violence, instability and a complicated relationship with his father. He speaks openly about witnessing domestic violence at home, having his confidence shattered at a young age and the lasting impact those experiences had on the person he became.But this isn’t simply a story about trauma.Jimmy takes us through the unlikely journey from a quiet, damaged kid to standing on stage making rooms full of people laugh. We explore why comedy seems to attract people carrying their own pain, where the Wigan Joker persona ends and Jimmy O’Neill begins, and the period when Jimmy became convinced that being a great comedian meant being a tortured one.We also get into the changing world of comedy.Jimmy shares his thoughts on cancel culture, political correctness, being blacklisted from parts of the comedy circuit and why he believes comedy should remain one of the few places where almost anything can be explored through humour.We talk about the craft of telling a joke, the rise of social media and independent creators, the changing route into entertainment and why comedians no longer need the traditional gatekeepers to build an audience.Underneath all of it is a fascinating conversation about trauma, resilience, identity, forgiveness, self-destruction and the extraordinary ability to turn painful experiences into something that makes other people smile.Jimmy may be known as The Wigan Joker.This episode introduces you to the man behind the laughs.🎙️ The Talking Tradesman Podcast