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What do propane pizza ovens, emissions rollbacks, nuclear power, and Santa Claus have in common? Apparently, a lot. In this festive episode of The State of Energy, Rand DeWitt and Tom Clark talk holiday propane gifts before diving into fuel economy mandates, fleet costs, nuclear power proposals, and why propane remains one of the most stable, American-produced energy sources available. Less hype, more heat

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In this Thanksgiving episode of The State of Energy, Tom Clark and Rand DeWitt dive into the holiday spirit with propane-powered turkey tips, the dangers of deep-fryer disasters, and the surprising performance of propane air fryers. Then the guys turn up the heat on national energy policy, breaking down New York’s gas ban suspension, Colorado’s problematic water-heater mandate, and the rising cost of electricity. They also highlight the latest propane rebates for homeowners, builders, farmers, and fleets—including Montana’s generous 25% vehicle incentive. It’s the perfect blend of humor, holiday talk, and hard-hitting energy insight.

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We question “zero emissions” labels, unpack Colorado’s coal-to-gas reality, and explore why propane often outperforms grid-charged EVs on lifecycle emissions. Michael Baker joins to decode the shutdown, Clean Cities funding, and how to keep energy policy pragmatic.

• Ride-and-drive insights on propane vehicles versus EVs
• The Comanche coal plant’s debt, timelines, and grid impact
• Lifecycle versus tailpipe emissions clarity for fleets
• Growth in demand from data centers and population
• Gates’s pivot to poverty and health over pure climate targets
• Shutdown timelines, LIHEAP stakes, and travel impacts
• Policy pendulum and durable strategies for propane
• Clean Cities funding outlook and all-of-the-above approach
• School bus wins and local chapter engagement
• Zion’s propane buses and an EV tow truck
• Montana VW funds: 25% toward new propane vehicles

Get 25% of a new vehicle paid for by the Montana DEQ by getting rid of one of your diesel trucks and buying a propane-powered truck. That funding request ends December 4th.

https://deq.mt.gov/energy/Programs/fuels