In this compelling conversation, Jim Wallis speaks with Brian Kaylor, president and editor-in-chief of Word & Way and host of Dangerous Dogma, about his new book The Bible According to Christian Nationalists. Kaylor exposes how Scripture is being distorted to serve political ends—and calls the Church to reclaim biblical truth and moral courage in an age of rising authoritarianism. Together, they explore how to resist “worship-washing,” rebuild faith literacy, and keep Jesus—not partisanship—at the center of public life.

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In this deeply moving episode of The Jim Wallis Podcast, Jim speaks with Palestinian theologian Samuel Munayer, co-editor of The Cross and the Olive Tree. Munayer offers a rare and urgent conversation about faith, justice, and reconciliation amid genocide and occupation.

Drawing on the living imagery of the olive tree—its rootedness, fruit, and resilience—Munayer explores how Palestinian Christians are reimagining theology as a force for healing, not just advocacy. From the silence of Holy Saturday to a “faith Nakba,” he and Wallis grapple with questions of lament, witnessing, and genuine hope when peace feels impossible.

This is theology grown from suffering soil, yet bearing the fruit of steadfast love and liberation.

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Jim Wallis welcomes Dr. Eddie Glaude Jr.—author, moral thinker, and Princeton professor—for a timely, unfiltered conversation on the centrality of race in America’s current political and spiritual crisis. They dig beneath the headlines, exploring

• the “lie at the heart of America’s self-understanding,”
• the urgent need for multiracial democracy, and
• what spiritual renewal demands of us all.

Eddie Glaude calls for truth-telling, moral courage, and a shared commitment to justice as the nation confronts crossroads that will define its future. Listen for honest answers, powerful challenges, and hope drawn from America’s deepest moral traditions.

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