In Episode 25 of the Heard! Afros & Audio Interview Series, Talib Jasir sits with Keisha "TK" Dutes to discuss The Secret Life of TK, a narrative podcast exploring burnout, media industry pressure, and creative sovereignty in audio storytelling.

TK is a veteran audio producer whose career spans terrestrial radio, streaming platforms, and podcasting. In this conversation, she reflects on shifting from producing other people's stories to telling her own and how burnout became both a physical and emotional turning point.

We examine what burnout looks like inside the media industry, the difference between visibility and being valued, and why reclaiming ownership of your narrative can redefine your relationship to the work. TK shares how she structured The Secret Life of TK as an immersive audio project, allowing different producers to shape each episode and create layered storytelling beyond traditional interview formats.

This episode explores boundaries, collaboration, vulnerability, and podcasting as public record. It also speaks directly to media professionals and creators navigating systemic pressure while trying to sustain their voice and well-being.

If you are a podcaster, producer, journalist, or creative professional thinking about burnout recovery, narrative podcasting, or building sovereign creative work, this conversation offers perspective grounded in lived experience.

Listen to The Secret Life of TK Dutes wherever you stream podcasts.

00:00 – Introduction & The Evolution of The Secret Life of TK
05:00 – When the Concept Changed in Real Time
10:00 – Letting Producers Lead & Creative Trust
15:00 – Immersive Audio & Producer-Driven Structure
20:00 – Burnout as a Physical Event
25:00 – Visibility vs Being Valued in Media
30:00 – Boundaries, Public Record & Protecting Peace
35:00 – Reciprocity, Collaboration & Time as Currency
40:00 – Permission to Change Your Mind
45:00 – Creative Practice as Restoration & Sovereignty

Listen to The Secret Life of TK Dutes on all major podcast platforms: https://podlink.com/1796520216

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To learn more about The Secret Life of TK Dutes visit: tastykeish.com/secretlifepod Follow on Instagram @tastykeish (IG) and @philosfuturemedia (IG- pronounced Fee-Low's...)