Episode 2 of the Perceptual Jiu-Jitsu Podcast with Brian Lucas, founder of Third Place Dojo in Coudersport PA and developer of Perceptual Jiu-Jitsu.

We pick up where Episode 1 left off, with a question: is this a jiu-jitsu pedagogy or a culture that uses jiu-jitsu as its medium? The answer turns out to be yes.

In this episode we get into Lens Work, the core investigative practice of Perceptual Jiu-Jitsu, and why the goal isn't a shared intellectual vocabulary but a shared felt sense vocabulary. We talk about what traditional technique drilling costs students that nobody talks about, why a brand new student grabbing Brian's legs instead of posting a frame might be the most important thing that happened in the dojo so far, and why the magic the gathering table in the back of Third Place Dojo is doing serious philosophical work.

Also: why Brian hates the word instructor, what a facilitator of emergent learning actually does, and what he most wants to find out when the room is finally full of people.

This is the 1st episode of The Perceptual Jiu-Jitsu Podcast where we move from sitting on the ground to discovering felt sense alignment, to discussing traditional vs perceptual pedagogy.