Nearly 30 years into marriage, Laurie sits down with the person who has watched it all unfold up close — her husband, Phil. The late nights. The hard calls. The moments she carried more than she let on.

This conversation is about what it actually takes to support a Wedding Pro — not just the surface-level cheerleading, but the daily reality of loving someone who is expected to be decisive and organized and endlessly warm, all at once. Phil talks about how his understanding of that pressure has shifted over the years, why the instinct to "fix" can land as dismissive, and what support really looks like when the calendar is full and the person you love is running on empty.

Laurie also introduces her "cargo plane" theory of burnout — why planners are trained to carry weight for everyone else, and how something as simple as a real check-in can be the difference between steady and overloaded.

The conversation goes deeper still, into the season that changed everything: Phil's stage 3B colon cancer diagnosis, the surgeries and chemo that followed, and the strange reality of a business — and a life — that kept moving regardless. They close on hope, identity, and the empty-nester chapter ahead, along with why community matters so much for planners and coordinators who need people who actually understand the weight of this work.

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