Friends, it’s been a minute.

I’m deeply troubled by the times - yet, I’m honoured to share this conversation with Nisha Moodley, an integrative leadership coach, community builder, and founder of the Center for Devotional Leadership.

We have been in mutual orbit for years, including sharing a number of mutual friends and an appreciation for each other’s work in the realms of cultural healing.

While much of our current collective attention is fixed on the horrific revelations of the Epstein files, Nisha and I sit on either side of this inquiry to ask: What is the deeper work required of us now?

Nisha shares her perspective on the “holy wail” currently rising from women and mothers—a fierce refusal to continue normalizing a culture of domination and extraction. We explore the “social codes” that keep men silent and the “alpha” masks used to hide deep-seated anxiety. Together, we look at the necessity of moving beyond the trap of being a “good man” to instead take a clear-eyed look at the shadow we all carry.

Central to our talk is the exploration of matriarchy- not as a mirror of patriarchal power, but a return to the sacred circle, where our societies are reorganized around kinship, service, and a “soft-bellied” freedom that makes the world safer for all our children.

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For men who wish to do this inner work, you are invited to my upcoming immersion & online cohorts:

* Awakening the Wild Erotic, Vancouver Island (April 24-26)

* The Deep Masculine, Online (next cohort begins May 3)

As well, don’t miss the innaugural Cascadia Men’s Conference, happening just north of Vancouver Aug 6-9th, 2026.

LINKS

* Nisha Moodley Official Website

* Nisha Moodley on IG

* Nisha’s post An Open Letter to Men

SHOW NOTES

* The collective “quiet heaviness” and nervous system exhaustion felt in the wake of the Epstein files and global revelations of exploitation.

* Why Nisha feels a “holy wail” of rage rather than shock, as these headlines mirror patterns women have navigated for a lifetime.

* The danger of distancing ourselves from “bad actors” and how that prevents us from seeing the micro-ways domination exists in our own communities.

* Ian’s reflection on moving from being a “good man” who points fingers to a man who stands with others to say, “Brother, we can do better.”

* A story from Nisha’s youth about the “parking lot code” and how social pressure often forces men to choose status over the truth.

* An analysis of the “alpha” performance—using figures like Andrew Tate—as a mask for deep-seated anxiety and a desperate need for control.

* How we have all internalized systems of domination and extraction, even in our most personal relationships and parenting.

* Why we often use outrage as a “safe” way to avoid the deeper, more transformative vulnerability of collective grief.

* The unique healing and “dropping of the guard” that happens in single-gender spaces when the performance for the other is removed.

* Exploring “matriarchy” as the fundamental antidote to patriarchy—shifting from a culture of domination to one that centers the protection of life.

* The shift from “power over” to “power with,” moving from ego-driven heroism to leadership rooted in service to the whole.

* A closing vision of “soft-bellied” freedom—the ability to live without armor and build a world that prioritizes the well-being of all children.

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