What if the very ministry you're pouring yourself into is quietly draining the life out of you—and you've convinced yourself that's just the cost of being faithful?

In this episode, Andrea sits down with Denine Blevins, Executive Director of Parakaleo, to talk honestly about the unique weight women carry in church planting. Denine shares her own story of nearly burning out while building beautiful Sunday experiences she didn't even want to attend, and how Parakaleo didn't hand her better ministry tactics—it handed her a mirror to see her own heart through the lens of the gospel.

If you're a church planter's wife, a woman on a planting team, or a sister in ministry who feels forgotten in the resource pile, this conversation names the chaos, the loneliness, and the identity questions you've been carrying. You are not alone. Your heart matters to Jesus more than the institution—and there's a community ready to point you back to Him.

What if resilience isn't about being tough — but about being curious? What if the very moments that knock you flat are the ones God is using to write a story better than the one you'd hold the pen for yourself?

In this conversation, Angela Davis is back with us to unpack the misconceptions that keep us stuck — stuffing emotions, isolating, distracting, and white-knuckling control. As a counselor and pastor's wife, Angela walks us through Romans 5 and Curt Thompson's work on suffering, helping us see perseverance as the long road and resilience as the strength to get back up inside the hard thing. She shares honestly about a two-year lawsuit in the middle of a church exodus, and what it looked like to keep trusting Jesus through it.

You are not alone, friend. Whether you're persevering or just trying to get back up today, we want to point you to the Author who is writing a good story, and to the names of God that meet you right where you are. I'll be praying that you experience the nearness of Jesus.

What do you do when the people who welcomed you into the church are the same ones now walking out the door — and saying hard things about your husband on the way?

In this conversation, counselor and pastor's wife Angela Davis sits down with Andrea to talk honestly about the 2020 season when a wave of people left their church, and how she defaulted to her old pattern: isolate, stuff it, hide behind her kids, and quietly let bitterness take root. Angela walks us through what finally moved her — a counselor's curious questions, the Holy Spirit's nudge back toward community, and the slow work of letting Scripture rewrite the narrative she'd been telling herself alone.

If you tend to withdraw, numb, fight, or fawn when ministry hurts, this one is for you. Angela reminds us that you cannot be critical and curious at the same time, that some weight is not yours to carry, and that Jesus is still the friend who sticks closer than a brother. You are not alone.