Growth inside a credit union looks different.

It is not just about volume.

It is about members.
It is about trust.
It is about service.
It is about building a mortgage department that can grow without losing the mission that made credit unions matter in the first place.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Christopher Sailus, Director of Mortgage Lending at Oregon State Credit Union, for a conversation about change management, member experience, operational discipline, and how credit unions can build stronger mortgage platforms for the future.

Christopher brings more than 20 years of leadership across mortgage production, fulfillment, credit risk, secondary markets, product development, and operational design. His career has included leadership roles at Oregon State Credit Union, WaFd Bank, Alaska USA Mortgage Co., and other regulated financial institutions.

At Oregon State Credit Union, Christopher joined a mortgage department already in motion and helped lead a major transformation. The story is not just about improving numbers, although the numbers are clear. Production grew from $102 million to $161 million. Year over year production increased 46 percent. Cycle times dropped 30 percent.

The deeper story is how that happened.

Christopher led work across credit risk governance, product development, process redesign, and team development while keeping an 18 person team aligned through fast change. That kind of work requires more than strategy. It requires communication, consistency, and the ability to bring people with you.

That is the center of this episode.

How do you grow a mortgage business inside a credit union without breaking the team?

How do you improve speed without sacrificing service?

How do you use technology and data without losing the human connection members expect?

How do you build products that help members reach real financial goals?

Christopher also shares perspective from managing $2 billion in annual mortgage production at WaFd Bank, launching LOS and POS platforms for more than 800 users across 8 states, building wholesale divisions, opening new branches, and supporting special purpose credit programs for low to moderate income borrowers.

This episode also touches on AI in mortgage, but from a practical leadership lens. Christopher is making a deliberate investment in AI strategy through Johns Hopkins University’s AI Business Strategy certificate program, building on years of applied AI work around workflow design, loan technology evaluation, training content, and analytics.

For credit unions, the opportunity is clear.

Mortgage growth cannot only be about competing with banks, IMBs, and brokers. It has to be about using the credit union advantage correctly. Local trust. Member relationships. Clear communication. Better products. Stronger execution. A team that understands why the work matters.

This conversation is for credit union leaders, mortgage executives, operations teams, loan officers, compliance professionals, and anyone thinking about how member focused lending can grow in a difficult market.

Because the future of credit union mortgage is not just about getting bigger.

It is about getting better while staying connected to the people you serve.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
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Risk is usually treated like something mortgage companies need to avoid.

Roy George sees it differently.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Roy George, President of MOR Lending, for a conversation about how risk, compliance, operations, and technology can become the foundation for reinvention.

Roy brings a rare combination to the mortgage industry. He has led at the executive level across fintech, compliance, and operations, giving him a view of the business that is both practical and forward looking. He understands the pressure of regulation, the importance of execution, and the need for mortgage companies to evolve without losing control of the customer experience.

That is the heart of this episode.

Mortgage leaders often talk about innovation, but real innovation has to survive inside the rules of the business. It has to work for operations. It has to make sense for compliance. It has to improve the borrower experience. It has to help teams move faster without creating new problems behind the scenes.

Roy’s background makes this conversation different because he does not separate risk from growth.

He connects them.

The mortgage companies that win the next cycle will not be the ones ignoring risk. They will be the ones that understand it well enough to build smarter systems around it.

Roy shares how his operations and compliance experience shaped the way he thinks about leadership, technology, and customer experience. He also talks about why digitizing the mortgage process cannot simply mean adding more tools. It has to mean making the experience easier, clearer, and more useful for the people actually using it.

This episode also gets into leadership.

Roy is known for an approachable and transparent leadership style, and that shows in the way he thinks about change. Reinvention does not happen because a leader announces a new direction. It happens when teams understand the why, trust the process, and believe the changes will actually make the work better.

The conversation covers what it takes to lead through uncertainty, how mortgage companies can rethink their operations, and why compliance should not always be seen as the enemy of progress. Done correctly, compliance can create discipline. Operations can create consistency. Technology can create leverage. Leadership connects all of it.

Roy has been recognized as a thought leader in mortgage and fintech, including being featured in Disruptive Fintech: The Coming Wave of Innovation in Financial Services with Thought Leadership Provided by CEOs by James Deitch. His perspective is shaped by years of building, leading, fixing, and improving mortgage organizations from the inside.

This episode is for mortgage executives, operations leaders, compliance professionals, fintech builders, loan officers, and anyone trying to understand what responsible reinvention looks like in today’s lending market.

Because the future of mortgage will not be built by avoiding risk.

It will be built by understanding it, managing it, and using it as a starting point for something better.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and trans...

Attention is easy to chase.

Trust is harder to earn.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Drew Gillett, Vice President of Marketing at Guild Mortgage, for a conversation about what mortgage marketing actually needs to become.

Drew leads marketing at one of the largest retail mortgage lenders in the country, supporting field marketing, marketing training, retail social media, web and digital, content, design, lead management, sales engagement, and special marketing initiatives. His work touches thousands of employees and millions of consumers, but the heart of his approach is simple: help loan officers show up as trusted experts before the first conversation ever happens.

That is the core of this episode.

The modern loan officer cannot afford to be invisible.

In today’s market, borrowers and referral partners are already forming opinions before they ever pick up the phone. They are searching. Watching. Reading. Comparing. Looking for signs that someone knows what they are doing.

Drew explains why personal brand is no longer optional for mortgage professionals. It is not about becoming internet famous. It is about becoming recognizable, reliable, and trusted in the markets you serve.

This episode gets into the difference between promotion and proof.

Promotion tells people you are good.

Proof shows them.

That distinction matters. Drew makes the case that the best mortgage content is not built around clever hooks or empty posts. It is built around evidence. Real advice. Clear explanations. Market knowledge. Consistent presence. The kind of content that makes someone say, “This person understands the problem I am trying to solve.”

Drew also shares the thinking behind his book, From Post to Close, a practical guide for mortgage professionals who know they need to be visible but do not know what to say, how to start, or how to turn content into real business. His view is clear: your story is your edge, but only if it helps people trust you.

The conversation also touches on AI in marketing, but from a practical lens.

Drew is not interested in hype. He is interested in whether AI helps teams move faster, test better ideas, remove busy work, and give loan officers more time to do the human parts of the job well. Technology should not replace relationships. It should strengthen them.

That theme runs through the entire episode.

Marketing does not replace trust.

Content does not replace service.

AI does not replace judgment.

The best mortgage marketing supports the relationship before, during, and after the transaction.

Drew also talks about leadership, standards, ownership, and what it takes to run a marketing team that serves both the company and the field. His approach is calm, clear, and focused on execution. Know what good looks like. Own your part. Deliver without drama.

This episode is for loan officers, marketing leaders, branch managers, mortgage executives, and anyone trying to build a brand that earns business the right way.

Because in this market, being known is not enough.

You need to be trusted.

Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and transaction risk. It gives lenders real time checks before money moves.
https://www.fundingshield.com/

What would a mortgage company look like if it was built around the way top loan officers actually work?

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Max Leaman, CEO of LoanPeople, for a conversation about what it takes to build a platform that helps originators perform at a higher level without losing the parts of the business that matter most.

Max brings the rare perspective of someone who has lived the loan officer role at an elite level. Over a 20 plus year originator career, he funded more than $4 billion in loan volume, averaging over $300 million per year during the last decade. Scotsman Guide ranked him as the number one Texas originator by volume.

That experience shaped how he thinks about the mortgage business today.

LoanPeople was built by a loan officer, for loan officers. That matters because the best originators do not just need a company name behind them. They need an operating system that helps them win.

They need pricing that is competitive without weakening service.

They need communication that keeps Realtors and business partners confident.

They need operations that understand urgency.

They need tools that support production instead of slowing it down.

They need a company that knows what it feels like to be on the front line with borrowers, agents, deadlines, expectations, and pressure.

This episode is about building that kind of environment.

Max breaks down the two principles that guide LoanPeople.

First, customers deserve great rates without sacrificing service.

Second, Realtors and business partners deserve five star communication, real solutions, and on time closings.

Simple ideas, but difficult to execute consistently.

That is where the operating system comes in.

The conversation focuses on what originators actually need in today’s market. Not another vague promise of support. Not another tool that creates more work. Not another platform designed by people who have never carried a pipeline.

The modern originator needs a system that connects pricing, process, communication, service, and execution in a way that helps them grow their business and protect their relationships.

Max also shares what his own production career taught him about discipline, responsiveness, and building trust with referral partners. When you have personally produced at the highest level, you understand where deals break, where communication fails, and where companies create unnecessary friction for their own sales teams.

That perspective now drives how LoanPeople is built.

This episode is for loan officers, branch leaders, mortgage executives, Realtors, and anyone thinking about what the next version of mortgage production should look like.

Because the future is not just about having better technology.

It is about building a better system around the producer.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and transaction risk. It gives lenders real time checks before money moves.
https://www.fundingshield.com/

Addy AI
Addy AI helps mortgage teams handle rep...

Value in mortgage is not just about rate.

It is about trust.
It is about communication.
It is about execution.
It is about whether the inside of the company is strong enough to deliver what the outside is promising.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Kevin Peranio, Chief Lending Officer and partner at PRMG, for a conversation about leadership, customer experience, accountability, and what it really means to lead with value in today’s mortgage market.

Kevin oversees all production at PRMG and works closely with both sales and operations. His leadership is centered on improving the full customer experience, from the first conversation to the final closing. That includes better reporting, stronger accountability, modern lending technology, consumer facing tools, and a clear connection between what happens behind the scenes and what the borrower actually feels.

As Kevin puts it, the inside drives the outside.

That idea sits at the center of this episode.

Mortgage companies often talk about better service, better technology, better communication, and better execution. But Kevin explains why none of that matters if the internal structure is weak. If sales and operations are disconnected, if reporting is unclear, if teams do not know where the file stands, or if leadership is not aligned, the borrower experience suffers.

Kevin brings the perspective of someone who has seen multiple eras of the mortgage industry.

His career began in 2001. He worked at First Magnus Financial across Texas and Florida, seeing firsthand how different markets behaved during a fast changing lending cycle. He later served as Chief Operating Officer at North Star Lending, helping build a local lender after the financial crisis by applying lessons learned from one of the most difficult periods in mortgage history.

Since joining PRMG in 2010, Kevin helped lead the Southeast Region to become the number one ranked region in the company, reaching that milestone in record time. That success helped make him one of the youngest partners at PRMG. He is also a four time President’s Cabinet member, an NMP Top 40 Under 40 honoree, a national speaker, and a respected industry voice through his Walk and Talk videos on LinkedIn and KP Talks Dollars and Sense on Instagram.

This conversation covers what value actually means in today’s market.

Not as a slogan.
Not as a sales pitch.
As a daily operating standard.

Kevin talks about the importance of overcommunication during difficult markets, why accountability has to exist at every layer of the process, and how leaders can use reporting and technology to create clarity instead of noise.

The episode also looks back at the industry’s past. Kevin reflects on the expansion of the credit box in the mid 2000s, the rise of independent mortgage bankers, the lessons of the global financial crisis, and why responsible lending still matters today.

For loan officers, this episode is a reminder that value is not created by talking louder than the competition. It is created by knowing the product, communicating clearly, solving problems quickly, and making the borrower feel guided through one of the biggest financial decisions of their life.

For leaders, it is a reminder that culture shows up in the file.

If the team is aligned, the customer feels it.

If the team is not aligned, the customer feels that too.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduc...

Some leaders are prepared for the role before the title arrives.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with LaTasha Waddy, President of NFM Lending, for a conversation about leadership, timing, responsibility, and what it takes to guide a major mortgage organization through a changing market.

LaTasha brings more than two decades of experience across legal affairs, corporate finance, contract management, regulatory compliance, and executive leadership. Before becoming President of NFM Lending, she served as Executive Vice President and Chief Legal Officer, overseeing legal, compliance, and regulatory matters across the NFM Family of Lenders.

That background matters.

In a mortgage market where growth, risk, compliance, culture, and customer trust all collide at once, LaTasha brings a leadership style built on clarity, preparation, and accountability. She understands the pressure of the current moment because she has spent her career helping companies make better decisions when the stakes are high.

This episode is about what it means to be built for the moment.

Not just when the market is easy.

Not just when volume is high.

But when leadership requires discipline, patience, purpose, and the ability to bring people with you.

LaTasha shares how her legal and corporate finance background shaped the way she leads today, how strong governance can support growth instead of slowing it down, and why responsible innovation matters in mortgage banking. She also discusses the importance of building teams that understand both the business and the people behind the business.

A major part of the conversation centers on impact.

LaTasha has been a key voice in advancing NFM Lending’s mission to create more responsible and accessible paths to homeownership. Her work helped support the launch of NFM’s Special Purpose Credit initiative, designed to help remove barriers to homeownership and expand opportunities for generational wealth in underserved communities.

Her leadership was recently recognized by HousingWire, naming her one of the 2025 Women of Influence. But this conversation goes beyond recognition. It focuses on the work behind the award, the responsibility that comes with leadership, and the importance of using influence to create real change.

LaTasha also brings a personal passion for financial literacy. As the author of a children’s book series focused on normalizing conversations about money, she believes financial education should start early and should feel accessible to every family.

This episode is for mortgage leaders, loan officers, executives, operations teams, compliance professionals, and anyone thinking seriously about the future of housing.

Because the next chapter of mortgage will require leaders who understand more than production.

It will require leaders who understand people, risk, responsibility, community, and long term impact.

LaTasha Waddy is one of those leaders.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and transaction risk. It gives lenders real time checks before money moves.
https...

Not everything with automation is AI.

And not every “AI tool” is actually changing the business.

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Quinton Harris, Chief Growth and Strategy Officer at Texana Bank Mortgage, for a straight conversation about what mortgage leaders are getting right and wrong when it comes to AI, growth, and strategy.

Quinton brings more than two decades of mortgage experience to the table. Since entering the business in 2002, he has built and led high performing teams, mentored more than 200 loan officers, and helped drive over $6 billion in purchase and refinance production. His previous team ranked as the top branch company wide for ten straight years and held the number one market share in Northeast Florida from 2020 to 2024.

That kind of growth does not happen by chasing trends.

It happens by knowing what actually moves the business.

This episode gets into one of the biggest problems in mortgage right now. Everyone is talking about AI, but too many people are using the term for anything that feels new, automated, or slightly faster than before.

Quinton breaks down why leaders need to stop labeling everything AI and start asking better questions.

What problem are we solving?

Is this helping the loan officer?

Is this improving the borrower experience?

Is this creating more trust, more speed, or more clarity?

Or is it just another tool that sounds impressive but does not change the outcome?

The conversation also covers what it means to lead growth inside a modern mortgage company. Quinton shares lessons from building dominant local market share, developing loan officers, staying connected to customers, and turning strategy into execution. As one of the first 100 Certified Mortgage Advisors in the country and host of the podcast What’s Your 1 More, Quinton brings a practical view of leadership that is rooted in discipline, communication, and doing the next right thing consistently.

This episode is for mortgage executives, branch leaders, loan officers, marketers, and technology teams who are tired of buzzwords and want a clearer way to think about what actually matters.

AI may be part of the future.

But clarity, leadership, and execution still win.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and transaction risk. It gives lenders real time checks before money moves.
https://www.fundingshield.com/

Addy AI
Addy AI helps mortgage teams handle repetitive work, respond faster, and keep borrower communication moving. It gives teams practical AI tools built around real lending tasks.
https://addy.com/

TRUE
TRUE helps mortgage companies use AI to clean up loan files, reduce manual work, and improve speed across operations. It is built for lenders that need better execution without adding more complexity.
https://true.ai/

Covered Insurance
Covered Insurance helps make insurance easier for borrowers, lenders, and real estate partn...

What happens when the loan officer stops waiting for the tech stack and starts building the workflow themselves?

In this episode of The MikedUp Show, Michael Kelleher and Michael Zau sit down with Brandon Durham for a conversation about a major shift happening inside the mortgage industry.

The old question was simple.

Do you buy the technology or build it yourself?

But now there is a third answer.

The producer.

Top loan officers are no longer just using the tools handed to them. They are starting to create their own websites, campaigns, automations, follow up systems, and daily workflows with the help of AI, low code tools, prompt writing, and new builder platforms.

That changes everything.

Because when producers can build around the way they actually work, the gap between the company system and the field reality starts to shrink.

This conversation is about what happens next.

What does leadership do when the best producers start moving faster than the company stack?

How should mortgage companies support builders without losing control?

What happens when an LO can test ideas, launch campaigns, and create systems without waiting months for approval?

And most importantly, how does the industry rethink the role of the modern producer?

This episode is not about replacing people with technology.

It is about giving the right people better tools.

It is about speed, ownership, creativity, and the next version of mortgage production.

Catch the full episode on The MikedUp Show.

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Truework
Truework helps mortgage teams verify income and employment faster. It reduces the back and forth that slows files down and gives lenders a cleaner way to move borrowers through the process.
https://www.truework.com/

FundingShield
FundingShield helps protect mortgage closings from wire fraud, payoff fraud, and transaction risk. It gives lenders real time checks before money moves.
https://www.fundingshield.com/

Addy AI
Addy AI helps mortgage teams handle repetitive work, respond faster, and keep borrower communication moving. It gives teams practical AI tools built around real lending tasks.
https://addy.com/

TRUE
TRUE helps mortgage companies use AI to clean up loan files, reduce manual work, and improve speed across operations. It is built for lenders that need better execution without adding more complexity.
https://true.ai/

Covered Insurance
Covered Insurance helps make insurance easier for borrowers, lenders, and real estate partners. It supports the home buying process by helping customers compare options and secure coverage with less friction.
https://itscovered.com/