Brad and Kyle explore what it takes to stay grounded when things don’t go as planned — when people lose faith, confidence wavers, and setbacks hit hard. From finding perspective through reflection and time away, to leaning on discipline and balance, they share how tough moments can become opportunities for growth. It’s a conversation about resilience, self-awareness, and the mindset to keep moving forward.

In this episode, Brad and Kyle dive into the Kansas City Chiefs’ journey to the Super Bowl, inspired by the documentary The Kingdom. From Lamar Hunt’s 50-year pursuit of a championship to Andy Reid’s relentless work ethic, they draw parallels between building a winning football team and running a business.

Drawing parallels to Brad's journey at Menlo, he shares early setbacks in building software, the determination required to create something entirely new, and the values that continue to shape the company. With a focus on hard work, pushing to dominate, and a spirit of “getafteritness,” the discussion highlights what it really takes to build championship-level performance in both business and life.

In this episode, we explore what it really means to stay the course when things get messy. From navigating uncertainty to planning for chaos, we unpack why people are so quick to hit the eject button and how resisting that urge can unlock real growth. We explore how to define what “winning” looks like before the busy back-to-school rush, how to grow together as a team, and how to bring your best every single day. It’s about building trust, leaning into uncertainty, and creating moments that leave customers feeling truly cared for.