Lauren and Lacey return to the Lindsay Clancy trial as closing arguments begin and share where they stand after weeks of testimony. They discuss the insanity defense, stipulations, expert testimony, mental health and the difficult question of where personal responsibility begins when serious mental illness is involved.

The conversation also turns to the larger issues the case has raised about postpartum support, advocating for your own mental health needs, and whether our current systems do enough for women who are struggling. While Lauren and Lacey don't agree on everything, they do agree that there are no simple answers, especially when three children lost their lives.

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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their discussion of the Lindsay Clancy trial, this time focusing on some of the legal issues viewers may not fully understand. They explain the difference between treating physicians and expert witnesses, why certain arguments happen outside the presence of the jury, and how jury instructions could ultimately play a major role in the verdict.

They also discuss the influence of social media on high-profile trials, including the potential legal consequences of publicly accusing someone of a crime without evidence and whether a jury in a case like this should be sequestered. Before wrapping up, Lacey shares a frustrating courtroom experience involving a bench warrant, plus a story about being mistaken for a college student's mom.

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey discuss the Lindsay Clancy murder trial and the very different stories emerging from the courtroom and social media. While Lauren has been following the actual trial, Lacey has primarily seen the case unfold online, giving them two very different perspectives on the evidence, speculation, and public reaction surrounding the case.

They discuss Clancy's defense involving postpartum psychosis, the accusations and conspiracy theories surrounding her husband, criticism of her doctors, and the challenges of separating evidence presented in court from theories circulating online. The conversation also explores the complexities of mental health treatment, the legal standard for an insanity defense, and the difficult balance between individual rights and intervention. With the trial still underway, Lauren and Lacey agree on one thing: the full story has yet to be told, and ultimately, the hope is that justice is served.

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey reflects on why experience should never stop anyone from learning. After witnessing an attorney reject helpful advice in court, she discusses the value of collaboration, constructive criticism, and knowing when to ask others for guidance.

Lacey shares examples from her own legal career, including seeking input from other attorneys, learning from colleagues with different strengths, and using feedback to improve her courtroom skills. The conversation is a reminder that the best professionals are not the ones who think they know everything, but the ones who remain open to learning, growing, and helping others along the way.

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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey take a break from legal headlines to talk about something every working parent understands: surviving summer. They share the realities of balancing busy law practices, family vacations, summer camps, childcare, and the challenge of keeping routines intact while school is out.

The conversation also touches on parenting children with different needs, the guilt that often comes with juggling work and family, and the excitement of getting back into the school-year routine. Along the way, they swap stories about celebrity encounters, upcoming events, and the everyday moments that remind them parenting is never one-size-fits-all!

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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey revisit the disturbing case of Samuel Bateman to wrap up their discussion of the FLDS documentary and the latest legal developments. They discuss Bateman's recent child abuse conviction, his decision to represent himself at trial, and the lasting impact his manipulation had on the women and children involved. The conversation also explores the psychological grip of cults, why followers often remain loyal even after crimes are exposed, and the difficult questions surrounding children with incarcerated parents. Along the way, Lauren and Lacey share personal experiences, discuss prison visitation, and examine how the justice system balances accountability, rehabilitation, and family relationships.

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In this solo Fourth of July episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren shares practical legal and safety tips for the holiday weekend while reflecting on what Independence Day means. She encourages listeners to celebrate responsibly by avoiding impaired driving, staying hydrated, and using fireworks safely.

Lauren also recounts a memorable case from her time clerking for a judge involving a serious fireworks injury that led to a lawsuit and raised important questions about homeowner's insurance, negligence, and liability. The episode serves as a reminder that holiday celebrations can have unexpected legal consequences and that a little caution can go a long way.

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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey takes a break from legal headlines to share her thoughts on one of the biggest celebrity stories of the moment, the reported divorce of Jelly Roll and Bunny XO. After reading Bunny’s memoir and listening to her recent podcast episode, Lacey reflects on the relationship dynamics she believes contributed to their split, including emotional investment, independence, and the importance of mutual support in a marriage.

Drawing from both personal observations and her legal perspective, Lacey discusses what healthy relationships require, why hyper-independent people still need partners who show up for them, and how public breakups can differ from the reality behind the scenes. She also touches on divorce, personal growth, and why compassion often matters more than choosing sides.

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