• S4:E10 | The Queen of Christmas Music: Elizabeth Chan on Niche, Hustle, and Building Her Own Lane
    2026/09/25
    Connect with Elizabeth Elizabeth Chan has built one of the most unique lanes in modern music, dedicating her career solely to Christmas music. She is a singer, songwriter, brand architect, mom, and businesswoman who has released 15 Christmas albums over 12 years and written more than 1,200 Christmas songs. Website: https://www.lizchanchristmas.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizchanmusic/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/lizchanmusicApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/elizabeth-chan/561130489Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5321SUEnOydgf2bVcvkLlX Episode Summary In this episode of Behind the Beat, Jeremy reconnects with Elizabeth Chan for a conversation filled with music business stories, humor, hustle, resilience, and Christmas magic. Elizabeth shares the early roots of her music journey, including her first recording experience as a child performer in New York City and her teenage years auditioning through The Village Voice. She talks about being a homeless teenager, landing an opportunity with C+C Music Factory, signing deals that never saw the light of day, and learning the music business through experience rather than theory. The episode also revisits a wild shared chapter between Jeremy and Elizabeth: the reality show On the Road with Sugar Ray, where their paths first crossed. Elizabeth explains how she hustled to get a driver's license in time to be on the show, eventually using that opportunity as a doorway into the business side of music. From there, the conversation moves into what makes Elizabeth's career so singular: her decision to build an entire brand and body of work around Christmas music. She talks about niche, authenticity, creative delusion, resilience, family, and the desire to create music that outlives her. Her story is funny, sharp, honest, and deeply entrepreneurial. This episode is about building your own lane, even when nobody else can see the road yet. What You'll Learn How Elizabeth's earliest recording experience shaped her understanding of the music businessWhy getting signed does not always mean your music will come outWhat she learned from C+C Music Factory, Sony, and years of shelved projectsHow On the Road with Sugar Ray helped move her toward the executive side of musicWhy she chose to dedicate her career to Christmas musicHow niche can become a powerful creative and business strategyWhy authenticity and bold vision matter in the music industryHow resilience can be exhausting, but also clarifyingWhat Elizabeth hopes her music contributes to the world long after she is gone Memorable Quotes "Don't anyone think this was overnight. This was decades overnight." "There was no better education than to work with C+C Music Factory." "Authenticity is the currency in this business." "The people that make it are the ones that are almost so delusional about their vision that it has to happen." "Resilience is exhausting." Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards Elizabeth Chan's story is a masterclass in building a lane that did not exist before. She did not wait for the industry to give her permission. She found her edge, claimed her niche, and kept creating until the world had to make room for it. That same idea is at the center of Jeremy Haselwood's book, Finding Your EDGE: How to Unlock Your Talent & Purpose. The book helps readers explore their experiences, gifts, direction, and energy so they can better understand what they are meant to build and why it matters. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/ For anyone in a season of reflection, transition, or reinvention, Jeremy's Clarity Cards are another powerful tool. Each card offers a prompt designed to help you think more deeply, reconnect with purpose, and make clearer decisions about your next step. Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com
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  • S4:E9 | The Power of Paperwork: Bernie Lawrence-Watkins on Record Contracts, Money, and Music Rights
    2026/09/18
    Connect with Bernie

    · Website: https://www.blwapc.com

    · Instagram: Bernie Gets You Paid: @BernieGetsYouPaid

    · Website: blwapc.com

    · Eclipse Distro: eclipsedistro.com

    · LinkedIn: Bernie Lawrence Watkins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernielawrencewatkins2/

    Episode Summary

    Jeremy talks with award-winning entertainment attorney Bernie Lawrence-Watkins about her path from performing arts student in New York to one of Atlanta's respected entertainment law voices. Bernie shares how seeing her brother's record deal helped confirm her desire to study law, how she built her practice while working other jobs, and why she was determined to create a recognizable brand in a field where women who looked like her were rarely seen in standalone leadership roles. The episode also covers contracts, negotiation, artist education, AI-generated artists, distribution through Eclipse Distro, and the mindset required to protect creators in a fast-moving business.

    What You'll Learn

    · How Bernie built her entertainment law practice while working full-time roles

    · Why brand, reputation, and leverage matter in law and music

    · What artists and producers should look for in contracts

    · The importance of term, compensation, assignment, notice, and cure provisions

    · How Eclipse Distro helps independent artists release and register music

    Memorable Quotes

    · "There's a difference between a job and having a career."

    · "I knew at that time that I had to build my leverage."

    · "Communication is key. It's powerful in this business."

    · "In this business called entertainment, it's really about building relationships."

    Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention. Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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  • S4:E8 | From the Dungeon to Michael Jackson: Tomi Martin's Journey Through Music's Biggest Rooms
    2026/09/11
    Connect with Tomi

    · Website: tomimartin.com

    · Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomimartin/

    · Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tomi.martin/

    · Facebook: Tomi Martin and the Prodigal Sons: https://www.facebook.com/tomimartinandtheprodigalsons/

    · Bandcamp: https://tomimartintheprodigalsons.bandcamp.com/track/pulpit-hammer

    Episode Summary

    Tomi Martin has played with and around some of the biggest names in music, including TLC, Monica, En Vogue, OutKast, Goodie Mob, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Stevie Nicks, Mick Jagger, 112, Curtis Mayfield, and more. In this episode, Jeremy and Tomi trace his journey from Kentucky kid taking apart guitars to an Atlanta musician who became the call when major producers needed feel, versatility, and professionalism. Tomi shares the audition that changed everything with Pebbles, studio memories with Michael Jackson and Madonna, his ties to the Dungeon Family, the making of records like Unpretty and Don't Let Go, and the business lessons musicians need to learn before they get lost in the thrill of the room.

    What You'll Learn

    · How Tomi's curiosity about the guitar shaped his musicianship

    · Why one audition with Pebbles helped open the Atlanta music industry to him

    · The difference between being a live musician and a studio musician

    · What it was like working with global icons and Atlanta legends

    · Why musicians need to understand credits, payment, and business conversations upfront

    Memorable Quotes

    · "A lot of live players can't do studio, and a lot of studio can't do live."

    · "You have to work for the record."

    · "My friend saw me better than I saw myself."

    · "If you don't, you'll never know what you missed."

    Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention. Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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    50 分
  • S4:E7 | Building the Sound: Ian Burke's Role in Shaping Atlanta Music HistorySeason 4 Ian Burke
    2026/09/04
    Connect with Ian

    · Instagram: @Ianburke https://www.instagram.com/ianfburke/

    · Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iburke1/

    · MIKKI VI Alien Single: https://music.apple.com/us/album/alien/6783014152?i=6783014163

    Episode Summary

    Ian Burke's story is a map of Atlanta music history. In this episode, Jeremy talks with Ian about reading album credits as a kid, leaving computer school after discovering life backstage, working at Ichiban Records, helping move MC Breed's Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin', and playing key roles in the formation and development of TLC, Kris Kross, Organized Noize, and OutKast. Ian reflects on the early Atlanta scene, the search for a distinct Southern sound, the magic of the Dungeon, and what it means to build something legendary long before the world knows what it is hearing.

    What You'll Learn

    · How Ian transitioned from computer school to commercial music

    · The role he played in developing TLC, Kris Kross, Organized Noize, and OutKast

    · Why Atlanta had to fight to find its own sound and respect

    · What the Dungeon felt like before it became music mythology

    · Why behind-the-scenes builders are essential to lasting culture

    Memorable Quotes

    · "That journey has brought us all the way to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. It's a life well lived."

    · "We were trying to figure it out. We were trying to be distinctive from both New York and LA."

    · "We had rappers, but we didn't have the sound. And most importantly, we didn't have the respect."

    · "We were just kids in a basement."

    Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards

    This episode is a reminder that success rarely starts with certainty. It starts with a decision, a door cracked open, a relationship, a risk, or one brave next step.

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books.

    Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention.

    Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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    48 分
  • S4:E6 | From Initiative to Impact: Dee Dee Murray on Radio, the Dungeon, and the Power of Showing Up
    2026/08/28
    Connect with Dee Dee

    · Instagram: @delethian: https://www.instagram.com/dalethian/

    · TikTok: @delovely1: https://www.tiktok.com/@delovely_1

    Episode Summary

    Dee Dee Murray's story is a love letter to passion, instinct, and being willing to create the opportunity that does not yet exist. She talks with Jeremy about managing her uncle's dance group as a teenager, working at Turtles Records & Tapes, launching a college radio show at Savannah State, landing professional radio work before graduation, working at Capitol Records, and becoming part of the Dungeon Family orbit. Dee Dee reflects on being in the room as OutKast and Organized Noize were building something special, recording the iconic Peaches intro for Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik while sick with the flu, and helping create opportunities before anyone knew how far the music would travel.

    What You'll Learn

    · How a record store became Dee Dee's launching pad into the music business

    · Why creating a college radio show helped open professional doors

    · What it felt like to be inside the Dungeon during the early OutKast era

    · The story behind her Peaches intro on Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik

    · Why community, belief, and consistency matter in creative movements

    Memorable Quotes

    · "Back in the day, the record store was everything."

    · "We didn't have music business programs like we have now. We had to really navigate our way."

    · "You didn't set out to be the best at anything. We were just trying to get that music up out."

    · "The music was special. The beats were special. There was just a feeling."

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity

    Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention. Get

    your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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  • S4:E5 | Country Fried Vision: Fish Scales on Nappy Roots, Southern Hip-Hop, and Craft Beer Culture
    2026/08/21
    Connect with Fish Scales Fish Scales is a member of the Grammy-nominated group Nappy Roots, an artist, entrepreneur, brewer, and co-owner of Atlantucky Brewing in Atlanta. Ways to support and connect: Fish Scales Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nappyscales/Nappy Roots Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nappyroots/Atlantucky Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atlantucky/Nappy Roots Website: https://nappyroots.comAtlantucky Website: https://atlantucky.comApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/nappy-roots/885525Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3tCxM1rTj2qUXsiQZxvt2IYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBPQKfPHf6F7K6wmmkpj7BA Episode Summary In this episode of Behind the Beat, Jeremy sits down with Fish Scales of the world-famous, Grammy-nominated group Nappy Roots for a conversation about music, brotherhood, perseverance, entrepreneurship, and the long road of building something that lasts. Fish Scales takes us back to Milledgeville, Georgia, where he started writing rhymes around age nine and became known early as "the kid who raps." From there, he shares how basketball took him to Western Kentucky University, where he eventually connected with the members who would become Nappy Roots. What started as college parties, cyphers, and a shared love for hip-hop became one of the most recognizable Southern rap groups of their era. The conversation explores how Nappy Roots landed a major label deal, what changed after leaving Atlantic Records, and how the group found its footing as an independent act. Fish Scales opens up about the hard years, including long gaps between albums, family sacrifices, financial strain, and the moments when quitting felt like a real option. But through brotherhood, faith, and a belief that "it gets hardest right before it gets good," the group kept moving. Jeremy and Fish Scales also discuss The Stix Mixtape, Nappy.org with Organized Noize, the evolution of the group's sound with 808 Blake, and how songs like "Good Day" helped extend the life of Nappy Roots in powerful ways. The episode then moves into the group's unlikely and brilliant second lane: craft beer. Fish Scales shares how beer became part of the Nappy Roots identity, how brewery culture connected naturally with their audience, and how that path eventually led to Atlantucky Brewing. This episode is about staying the course, trusting the brand you have built, and finding new ways to create long after the first dream comes true. Fish Scales' episode traces the arc from childhood rhymes and WKU cyphers to Nappy Roots' independent run and Atlantucky Brewing, with key moments around "Country Fried Sess," "Good Day," Organized Noize, 808 Blake, and the group's craft beer lane. What You'll Learn How basketball and music both shaped his early identityHow Nappy Roots formed at Western Kentucky UniversityHow Nappy Roots got discovered from their underground CD Country Fried SessWhat it was like transitioning from Atlantic Records to independenceHow brotherhood helped Nappy Roots survive hard seasonsWhy Da Stix Mixtape helped bridge a gap when the group had no album outWhy the group evolved its sound with 808 BlakeHow craft beer became part of the Nappy Roots brand Memorable Quotes "We always had that mindset that it gets hardest right before it gets good." "We created a brand and we created our space, and nobody can take that from us." "You can't fight it. You just gotta learn how to ride it and do your version of it." "Nappy Roots and craft beer became a thing." "The process of making beer can be compared to music." Finding Your EDGE (book) + Clarity Cards Fish Scales' story is a reminder that purpose does not always stay in one lane. Sometimes it starts with a notebook and a rhyme, grows into a group, survives hard seasons, and eventually becomes a brewery, a community space, and a brand with roots deep enough to keep expanding. That is the heart of Jeremy Haselwood's book, Finding Your EDGE: How to Unlock Your Talent & Purpose. The book helps readers explore their experiences, gifts, direction, and energy so they can better understand what they are called to build and how to move with more clarity. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/ For anyone navigating a creative pivot, business idea, or next chapter, Jeremy's Clarity Cards are a powerful reflection tool. Each card offers a question designed to help you pause, think, and reconnect with purpose so you can make clearer decisions about what comes next. Get your deck of Clarity Cards here: www.clarity-cards.com
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  • S4:E4 | From Streets to Suites: Keinon Johnson's Path from Street Promotions to Music Executive
    2026/08/14
    Connect with Keinon

    · Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keinon.the.maven/

    Episode Summary

    In this episode of Behind the Beat, Jeremy talks with music industry executive Keinon Johnson about a career that began with unpaid street promotions in Atlanta and grew into senior leadership roles at major labels, including Priority, MCA, and Interscope. Keinon shares stories from working with artists like Master P, Mary J. Blige, Common, Kendrick Lamar, GloRilla, Juice WRLD, and Ella Mai, while explaining the mechanics of promotion, radio relationships, artist development, and modern deal-making. The conversation is both a history lesson and a playbook for anyone trying to understand how music travels from an artist's vision to the ears of the world.

    What You'll Learn

    · How street promotions became a gateway into the music business

    · Why relationships still matter in radio, marketing, and artist development

    · What artists need before pursuing a label deal today

    · How data, story, and audience-building create leverage

    · Why labels often add fuel to a fire artists have already started

    Memorable Quotes

    · "The best kind of record rep is a record rep that doesn't necessarily have to sell you all the time."

    · "Storytelling is a big part of the music business."

    · "Labels add gas to the fire that's already happening."

    · "The audience is buying into the actual artist as opposed to songs."

    Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards

    This episode is a reminder that success rarely starts with certainty. It starts with a decision, a door cracked open, a relationship, a risk, or one brave next step.

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention. Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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  • S4:E3 | Behind the Contract: Scott Keniley on the Business Side of Music
    2026/08/07
    Connect with Scott

    · Company website: https://www.k5law.com

    Episode Summary

    Scott Keniley did not set out to become an entertainment attorney. His entry into the business came through a rapper with a problem, a record company dispute, and a willingness to learn the music industry one case at a time. In this episode, Jeremy and Scott unpack the legal and business side of music in clear, practical language. Scott discusses how artists get deals, what labels look for, why leverage matters, how royalty calculations can be misunderstood, and what artists and producers should pay attention to before signing anything. The result is an episode that feels like a backstage pass to the contract room.

    What You'll Learn

    · How Scott accidentally found his niche in entertainment law

    · Why numbers, audience, and traction affect record deal opportunities

    · What artists should understand about term, delivery, royalties, and recoupment

    · Why producers are often under-recognized in hip hop and pop music

    · How attorneys can help artists avoid negative situations before they happen

    Memorable Quotes

    · "I enjoy everything when it's positive."

    · "Leverage is the key word there."

    · "Producers are basically the hero that doesn't get the recognition they deserve."

    Finding Your EDGE + Clarity Cards

    This episode is a reminder that success rarely starts with certainty. It starts with a decision, a door cracked open, a relationship, a risk, or one brave next step.

    In Finding Your EDGE, Jeremy Haselwood's book helps readers unlock their talent and purpose by getting clear about who they are and what they are called to build. Available on Amazon, Audible, Kindle, and Apple Books. Order here: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-EDGE-Unlock-Purpose/dp/B0BW32LXTP/

    And if you need a practical spark for reflection, journaling, team conversations, or personal growth, Clarity Cards are designed to help you ask better questions, name what matters, and move with more intention. Get your deck here: www.clarity-cards.com

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    56 分