In the fourth and final instalment of In Conversation with Lee Jowett, Terry and Lee focus squarely on the DVSA, and a proposal that has sparked debate, frustration, and deep concern across parts of the industry.

At the heart of this session is a simple but uncomfortable question:

How can we assess driving instructors against standards that the assessment itself makes impossible to demonstrate?

Lee explains in detail why KIT’s proposal calls for a return to full one-hour Standards Checks and Part 3s, not for convenience, but because the current format fundamentally undermines the very National Standards it claims to be based on.

This conversation explores:

1. How shortened assessments inevitably prioritise “car moving” over reflection, awareness, and coaching
2. The mismatch between DVSA guidance and DVSA assessment
3. Why testing always shapes training, whether we like it or not
4. How instructors are being trained away from the behaviours that actually reduce serious collisions

Lee is clear: this is not about him, KIT, or ownership of an idea. It’s about aligning assessment with evidence, guidance, and decades of research into what actually creates safer drivers.

There’s also a direct call to action, not blind agreement, but engagement:

1. Read and understand the proposal
2. Share it if you believe in it
3. Raise questions with organisations, associations, and MPs
4. Or, at the very least, push something that moves the industry forward

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In the third instalment of In Conversation with Lee Jowett, Terry and Lee take a hard, honest look at where the driving instructor industry actually is right now.

Lee opens by describing an industry at a crossroads: full of potential, but vulnerable if meaningful change doesn’t happen. While there are positives, particularly the mindset of newer instructors, there are also serious concerns about qualification processes, inconsistent training standards, and the absence of effective oversight.

Together, Terry and Lee explore:

1. Why the industry feels fragmented and inconsistent from top to bottom
2. How inadequate or outdated training models continue to slip through the cracks
3. How “trainer culture” and public posturing can undermine trust and development

There’s also balance. Both acknowledge:

1. The growing hunger for CPD among newly qualified instructors
2. The positive impact of industry events, conferences, and communities
3. The value of trainers who continue learning rather than resting on their reputation

Looking ahead, Lee reflects on what he’s proud of from 2025, particularly supporting other instructors to develop into thoughtful, credible trainers, echoing the role mentoring once played in his own career. He also shares cautious hopes (and real apprehensions) about what 2026 may bring if structural change continues to stall.

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In this second In Conversation session, Terry and Lee Jowett step back from techniques, tests, and trends to ask a much bigger question:

What actually matters in our industry?

The discussion centres on outcomes, not instructor comfort, not box-ticking, and not social-media perfection, but what genuinely comes out the other end of driver training and onto the roads.

Lee challenges some deeply ingrained habits within instructor training, particularly the industry’s historic focus on skills and knowledge alone. He argues that while these matter, they don’t explain why serious collisions happen, and therefore won’t be enough to prevent them.

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