In our final episode, we explore an ancient image and a very modern story of conversion.

Special thanks to John Cavadini and Njada for being a part of this episode.

Meet Seda: a fellow Christian who identifies as a transgender woman. Today, we’ll not only hear Seda’s story, but about how Abby and Seda first crossed paths and became friends. This episode is about what lies beyond the obstacles of fear that keep us from one another.

How can we accompany people if we don’t understand what they are experiencing? When cultural forces are eager to put a label on everything, what do we do with experiences that don’t fit neatly into one particular box? And what should Christians do about the question of preferred pronouns? Fr. Raphael Mary Salzillo, O.P., Dr. Julia Sadusky, and Ollie help us find out.

We are into the final four episodes of our series. While we have learned key terms and witnessed powerful stories, a big question still remains: when it comes down to it, what does authentic accompaniment actually look like, for those seeking to serve persons with gender discordance? And what sorts of alienating pitfalls do we need to avoid?

In this episode we’ll hear from lay minister Marlyn Batista about her research into this very topic. Later, Dr. Julia Sadusky and Fr. Raphael Mary Salzillo join us to share their perspectives on accompaniment. We’ll also hear Marie’s story, and identify actions that ultimately do little more than alienate.

Special thanks to Marlyn Batista, Dr. Julia Sadusky, Fr. Raphael Mary Salzillo, O.P., and Marie for being part of today’s episode.

Additional Links:

• The Us Versus Us Study: https://www.amazon.com/Us-versus-Untold-Religion-Community/dp/1631466194

• Learn more about Julia’s work here: https://www.juliasadusky.com/about

In today’s episode, we’ll meet Honorata and hear about her experience with medical transition, an experience which – quite mysteriously – coincided with her finding her way back to God and back into the Church. Honorata’s story doesn’t fit neatly into culture war narratives about gender and transition; rather, it offers a beautiful, honest look at the often enigmatic ways God moves in our lives.

We’ll also talk with Dr. Paul Hruz, an endocrinologist, about what we know and what we don’t know when it comes to the causes of gender dysphoria and its treatment.

Special thanks to Dr. Paul Hruz and Honorata for appearing in today's episode.

In today’s episode we hear from Sean about his experiences of transition, detransition, and conversion. We’ll explore the concept of personal fragmentation and how the varied, seemingly disparate parts that make up each of us can find integration and unity in Christ’s loving gaze. Dr. Greg Bottaro joins us to offer a psychologist’s perspective, and we’ll revisit our conversation with Sr. Maria Gemma on the healing power of Adoration.

Special thanks to Dr. Greg Bottaro, Sr. Maria Gemma Salyer, and Sean for appearing in today's episode.

Learn more about Dr. Greg’s work here: https://catholicpsych.com/

In this episode, we hear from Quinn as she shares her journey with gender discordance. From a young age, Quinn experienced a fragmentation of her identity that spurred years of wrestling. Today, we’ll learn how she has come to reconcile her call to self gift with her gender discordance. We’ll also talk to Anna Carter of Eden Invitation about their unique approach to ministry.

Special thanks to Anna Carter and Quinn for appearing in today's episode.
Learn more about Eden Invitation here: https://www.edeninvitation.com/

What story is God telling us through our bodies? Today we explore the power of story in understanding ourselves and the ambient, cultural forces that can shape our perception of gender and the body. We’ll hear Katy’s journey towards understanding her own femininity and learn from Dr. Angela Franks.

Special thanks to Dr. Angela Franks and Katy for appearing in today's episode.

We talked about:

Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body:

http://amazon.com/Man-Woman-He-Created-Them/dp/0819874213/

Chance or the Dance? By Thomas Howard:

https://www.amazon.com/Chance-Dance-Critique-Modern-Secularism/dp/0898702291

The Works of George MacDonald

https://www.worksofmacdonald.com/

Read Angela’s work here:

https://www.angelafranks.com/writing-1