Host Liz Purvis discusses what it means to run outside the two-party system with Jason Brown, an independent progressive candidate for Congress in Virginia’s 4th District, a Democratic-leaning seat spanning urban/suburban areas like Richmond and rural communities farther south.

Brown argues reform within a capitalist two-party framework can’t deliver systemic change and says the system prioritizes private profit over public good. His core platform is abolishing ICE and pursuing “affordability for all,” including housing, education, healthcare, universal pre-K, and public transit, while criticizing spending on war and proposed ICE detention expansion.

He describes voter frustration with “lesser of two evils” politics, emphasizes organizing working-class power, and shares campaign realities without party infrastructure, including ballot-access signature gathering and relying on small-dollar donations while rejecting corporate PAC and AIPAC money.

Host Liz Purvis welcomes guest host Coach LeVon Barnes of Alamance County, a 23-year educator and working-class father running for a North Carolina General Assembly House district 64, to discuss why he entered politics and what he learned from past campaigns.

We break down key North Carolina primary results and dynamics, including Alamance county commissioner and sheriff races, Durham’s Congressional District 4 primary between Valerie Foushee and Nida Allam (and Allam’s concession), new Durham school board members, and debates over severe public education underfunding and how counties are forced to fill gaps. We also discuss Roy Cooper’s Senate run, the importance of judicial races like Justice Anita Earls, surprising statewide outcomes, the razor-thin Phil Berger–Sam Page Republican contest, Democratic primary upsets of incumbents who overrode vetoes, and how turnout, organizing, and down-ballot investment shape November. Find LeVon at LeVonforNC.com

Host Liz Purvis welcomes Kyah Creekmore, a 24-year-old Democratic candidate running in North Carolina’s 5th Congressional District primary to take on 20-year Republican incumbent Virginia Foxx.

Creekmore describes the gerrymandered, sprawling 10-county district—largely rural and Appalachian but containing major student populations across campuses like UNC Greensboro, NC A&T, and App State—and argues those students are a growing political force. The conversation covers recent student organizing and marches after the State Board of Elections removed campus polling locations and Sunday voting, which Creekmore frames as youth and Black and brown voter suppression.

He contrasts Gen Z’s realities—low wages, high rents, rising tuition, student debt, and weak job prospects—with older, wealthier political leadership, and emphasizes building a youth movement and mobilizing disengaged voters through lived-experience messaging. The episode ends with a lightning round and ways to support the campaign at KyahCreekmore.org, with Liz noting the race’s importance for rebuilding political power in gerrymandered communities.