Badwater, bib transfers, race rules, live tracking, and the questionable state of trail running media—this week, Jake and Mick have plenty to argue about.

They break down Badwater 135 and debate whether some of the sport's biggest races are getting too complicated, whether runners should be able to freely transfer race entries, and whether live tracking and constant updates actually make races better. They also dive into the growing European trail scene, try to figure out what race they're even talking about, and discuss the mysterious listeners who apparently refuse to publicly acknowledge that they listen to the podcast.

Plus, the usual trail running tangents, questionable opinions, and plenty of stuff that probably shouldn't have made it onto the internet.

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