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  • Evan Barker On Wokeness Hijacking The Dems

    Evan Barker On Wokeness Hijacking The Dems
    2026/10/16
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.comEvan is a former campaign fundraiser and political strategist for Democrats. She just published her first book, Nothing Left: Confessions of a Democratic Operative, which really blew me away. She’s also a writer and podcaster on Substack.The episode was recorded on October 13, 2026, and aired on October 16. A polished transcript is below. Timestamps for the main sections:* 02:18: Evan’s upbringing in a poor, tumultuous family and trailer park* 21:44: Her congenital illness that led her to volunteer for Obama and his ACA* 33:43: When she started to turn against Democrats* 57:51: Getting canceled for being a “fragile white woman”* 111:55: The death of her veteran brother and a woke disdain for patriotism* 123:21: Her vote for Trump as a reactionary protestFor two audio clips — on her illness that drove her to campaign for Obama, and the woke dominance of Dem donors — head to our YouTube page.More topics covered: how unions helped Evan’s family; the many marriages of her parents; going to 10 different schools; instability with money and healthcare; becoming a first-gen college grad; progressive activism; Bernie and AOC; the colorblind message of Obama; Hillary’s shift to identity politics; the smug elitism of Dem operatives; nepotism; weaponizing “oppression”; the Dem suspicion of straight men; Evan’s “masculine” approach to fundraising; the woke pipeline of the Ivy League; Kaepernick’s knee; oikophobia; immigration and the border; the ICE overreach; the silence of scared liberals; and how Dems haven’t gotten the message after 2024.Money quotes from Evan:* “My mom could have a wild temper, and the men that she chose to marry could also have tempers. So yeah, I saw things like wine glasses getting thrown at heads and us taking off, and stepdads chasing us down the street and police getting called and all of those fun things. It affected me negatively, but it also affected me really positively — and I choose to focus on the positive. I have always done really well at adapting to situations.”* “I wasn’t actually diagnosed [with PCD] until I was 15 years old, but I was sick my entire life. When I was born, they gave me a 50-50 chance of living. The book was originally titled Born Blue, because I was born blue and then became a Democrat for the same reason. It was hard at times for my parents to get me health insurance.”* On working for the Obama campaign in 2008: “I felt very accepted and included. And it was so unique; there were people from all different walks of life, different backgrounds, different demographics. I wrote in my book it was not uncommon to see middle-aged, church-going black women working alongside 70-year-old white men wearing trucker hats that had been in unions their entire lives.”* On the vibe she got from Dem elites: “‘You’re from Dumbfuckistan, the part of the country that just elected Trump, thanks a lot.’ And so, I started noticing these class differences and found myself disconnected from the establishment wing of the party. It seemed like they had changed a lot; they were no longer what Obama was in 2008.”* “I think 2020 was when it was undeniable. It really, really hit me in the face, but to be honest, I saw flashing signs before that. I think the biggest one was when AOC was planning to come to town with Bernie and to support a white man — a white, male, straight candidate — and there was a mob that formed on Twitter that started blasting her for supporting him over the woman of color, lesbian, MMA fighter.”* “I like to joke, ‘I don’t believe in any kind of DEI, but if the Democratic Party were going to embrace DEI, they should probably hire more white men, to be honest with you.’ And people get really mad at me when I say that, especially in communications roles, because it’s just so clear that they’re not represented anymore in the Democratic coalition.”* “There is this desire to focus on these [identity] things vs. expanding healthcare access or taking on Wall Street or breaking up corporate monopolies, because it’s a way to get around doing the things that would actually materially change people’s lives. It doesn’t cost rich people anything to be woke.”Browse the Dishcast archive for episodes you might enjoy.Full TranscriptAndrew: Hello, hello, hello from our first Dishcast back in Washington, DC. For the fall — although it feels like summer out there — it’s beautiful today. I want to thank you first of all for keeping your subscription. And for those of you who haven’t subscribed, to ask you, please do. We really do need your support. This is a podcast that has no ads, no sponsorship. We’re not going to try and persuade you to buy lawnmower at some point. It’s a very pure thing. It’s you, me, the guest, and that works only when you keep your subscriptions. Thank you so much for doing ...
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    35 分
  • Michael Lewis On The Civil Servants Who Defied Trump

    Michael Lewis On The Civil Servants Who Defied Trump
    2026/10/09
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.com

    Michael is the best nonfiction writer in America — and another friend from the early TNR days. He’s the author of so many bestsellers, including Liar’s Poker, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Flash Boys. He was on the Dishcast four years ago to discuss The Premonition: A Pandemic Story, and last year to discuss a collection of essays called Who Is Government?

    This week we’re covering his new book, Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State, which profiles some unknown heroes in the bureaucracy who defended the rule of law against Trump in his second term — and faced the consequences. Think of it as the flip-side of Jake Weisberg’s treatment of the powerful cowards who caved.

    The episode was recorded on September 29, 2026, and aired on October 9. Below are timestamps for the main sections of the pod:

    * 03:36: How Michael decided to frame and shape the book

    * 11:32: DOGE as the tip of the spear for Trump 2.0

    * 27:36: The physical takeover of buildings by DOGE

    * 42:45: The amazing story of Alex Marangides inventing a new fire science

    * 101:20: Covid policy and the turmoil at the National Institutes of Health

    * 119:32: Michael’s moving tribute to his daughter Dixie

    For three audio clips — why DOGE was never really about downsizing, the only member of DOGE who was fired, and Michael writing a play for his deceased daughter — head to our YouTube page.

    More topics covered: how Trump 2.0 is different than 1.0; firing his transition team in 2016; the purging of enemies after 2024; Musk wanting to take control of NASA; reversing woke terminology; bypassing Congress; weaponizing private data; Musk promising pardons to DOGE; dismantling USAID; Vought and knee-capping the NIH; Michael’s scoop that Francis Collins was actually fired; debating the culpability of Bhattacharya; the Clinton-Gore downsizing; fixing the ozone layer; Trump’s sycophants; the horrifying Howard Lutnick; and inspiring stories of civil servants standing up for their role and the rule of law.
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    32 分
  • Emily Eakin On What Postmodernism Wrought

    Emily Eakin On What Postmodernism Wrought
    2026/10/02
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.com

    Emily is a senior editor at the New York Times Book Review. She’s also worked as a senior editor at The New Yorker, an ideas reporter for the NYT, a fashion features writer at Vogue, and a deputy editor of Lingua Franca magazine. Her new book is The Frenchmen: Or, My Life in Theory.

    A polished transcript is here, including money quotes. Below are timestamps for the main sections of the pod:

    * 03:56: Emily’s upbringing in a Francophile family

    * 14:27: The postmodern idea that language is everything

    * 31:05: The postmodern New Right

    * 41:14: The dark dysfunctional lives of many of the French thinkers

    * 103:27: The fatalism in pomo discourse

    * 117:14: How Emily became skeptical of postmodernism

    For two clips of the episode — on the word games of postmodernists, and the screwed-up lives of Foucault and others — head to our YouTube page.

    More topics: Emily growing up in Indiana with regular trips to France; the country’s post-war boom but drop in world status; colonial revolt in Algeria; Heidegger and Nazism; Barthes and Maoism; Derrida and language; Levi-Strauss and structuralism; Camus and existentialism; nihilism; bourgeois as an epithet; Lacan and the unconscious; Althusser strangling his wife to death; the Straussian cult; Allan Bloom; the Sokal hoax; Stanley Fish and deconstruction; John Boswell and homosexuality; Foucault deconstructing gayness; the AIDS crisis; the prison system; Orwell and Oakeshott; Sarah Bakewell on Montaigne; HR and pronouns; the fatalism of Coates; and Trump’s exec orders on language in government.

    Browse the Dishcast archive for an episode you might enjoy. Coming up: Michael Lewis on the bureaucrats who fought back against Trump, Evan Barker on how the Democratic Party got hijacked by elite activists, Sean Illing on the relevance of Camus and Nietzsche, Catherine Conybeare on Augustine, and Cyrus Habib on leaving politics to become a Jesuit priest. Please send any guest recs, dissents, and other comments to dish@andrewsullivan.com.
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    42 分
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