Marci Weisler didn't build her career by following a script. She followed her curiosity. From analyst to mobile pioneer, from co-founding SWSI Media (which became Viacom's Queen Boss) to leading a major line of business at T-Mobile and now advising companies as a managing director in investment banking — Marci has made a career out of stepping into what's new before it's obvious.

In this episode, she talks with Mack about why she's always chased the "bright, shiny" emerging ideas, how her Head, Heart, Wallet framework keeps her grounded when the stakes rise, and what she's learned from the decisions that didn't go as planned. She also shares how decision-making shifts when you move from a startup to a matrixed giant, and why the environment you're in should shape how you choose.

It's a practical, candid look at how leaders refine their judgment and why curiosity, not certainty, is often the smarter compass.

00:00 Marci Weisler's Career Journey

08:24 Decision-Making Frameworks

15:45 Navigating Decision Outcomes

25:58 Hiring Challenges and Lessons Learned

34:03 Rapid Fire Insights

Camille Preston went to the beach to start writing her book… and it promptly snowed 13 inches for the first time in more than a decade. An abrupt reminder that conditions change fast, even when you think you know what's coming. It's the perfect setup for this conversation about how leaders actually make decisions today.

A business psychologist and author of Living Real, Camille challenges the old markers of success and pushes leaders to understand themselves well enough to make decisions from the inside out. She talks about being "totally put together and a hot mess," not as a contradiction but as an honest snapshot of what it feels like to lead on shifting ground.

In this conversation with Mack, Camille shares the tools she uses with leaders every day: adjusting altitude to get the right perspective, using integrated decision-making so the head, heart, and body all inform the choice, and applying her Donut Model to recognize when you're in comfort, growth, or approaching burnout. Across it all, she comes back to the idea that anchors her approach: be clear on the outcome, flexible on the approach. In a world flooded with data but starved for real clarity, Camille argues that the most valuable leadership skill is the ability to pause, shift perspective, and listen inward.

Some people talk about trusting their gut. Gladys Kong has learned how to explain hers.

In this conversation, the CEO of Azira joins Mack to talk about how she makes tough decisions: when to lean on data, when to listen to her instincts, and how to translate that gut feeling into something her team can understand and act on.

With the precision of an engineer and the perspective of a seasoned leader, Gladys shares how she brings logic and empathy to the table and why transparency builds stronger teams than perfection ever could. Gladys reminds us that leadership isn't about having all the answers, it's about creating space for others to speak up, learn, and grow with you.