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  • EP 29 - The 9-Point Due Diligence Checklist That Has Saved Us Thousands
    2026/08/26

    A co-living property can look like a great deal on paper, but one overlooked sewer, structural, zoning, or insurance issue could cost you thousands after closing.

    In this episode, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break down the nine-part due diligence checklist they use before buying a co-living property. They explain which inspections are worth paying for, how inspection findings can create negotiating leverage, and when a serious issue should make you reconsider the deal.

    You’ll learn how to evaluate:

    • General property inspections
    • Sewer scopes
    • Electrical panels and capacity
    • Roof condition
    • Plumbing systems
    • Structural integrity
    • Permits and previous renovations
    • Zoning and occupancy limits
    • Insurance for co-living properties

    Miller and Craig also share real examples of issues they have uncovered, seller credits they have negotiated, and costly surprises this process has helped them avoid.

    Whether you’re buying your first co-living property or adding another home to your portfolio, this episode will help you complete your due diligence with fewer surprises and greater confidence.

    Connect with the hosts:
    Miller McSwain: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/
    Craig Curelop: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/

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    52 分
  • EP 28 - Inside the Country's Largest Co-Living Operation
    2026/08/20

    How do you scale a co-living company from a small operation to nearly 4,000 units across major U.S. cities?

    In this episode, Miller and Craig sit down with Sergii Starostin, co-founder and CEO of Outpost Club, to explore the strategies behind one of the country’s largest co-living operations.

    Sergii explains how Outpost expanded through organic growth and strategic acquisitions, including taking over properties from Bedly, Quarters, Common Living, and June Homes. He also shares how the company evaluates acquisition opportunities, determines which markets make sense, and chooses between master leases, revenue-sharing agreements, and property management contracts.

    The conversation also covers:

    • Why Outpost focuses on large projects with 100–200 rooms
    • How acquisitions helped the company enter new markets
    • Why some previously strong co-living markets are now struggling
    • How Outpost evaluates property management companies using EBITDA
    • Why market concentration helps lower customer acquisition costs
    • How AI increased each leasing representative’s capacity from roughly seven leads to 40–50 leads per day
    • How AI is changing leasing, marketing, customer service, and financial operations
    • Why Sergii believes traditional software-as-a-service could disappear
    • Outpost’s upcoming free property management platform, Nebo
    • What the future may hold for co-living operators and property managers

    Whether you currently operate a few rooms or hope to build a national co-living company, this episode provides a rare look inside co-living at an entirely different scale.

    Connect with Sergii Starostin:
    Email: ss@outpost.me
    Nebo: https://mynebo.co

    Follow Miller McSwain:
    https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/

    Follow Craig Curelop:
    https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/

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    57 分
  • EP 27 - The AI-Powered Co-Living Owner: Investing From 800 Miles Away
    2026/08/13

    Can AI help you become a more informed co-living owner without taking over your property manager’s job?

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Tanya Zorov, a co-living investor who lives in New Jersey and owns two properties in Jacksonville, Florida.

    Tanya explains how she purchased two already-operating co-living homes, kept the existing property manager in place, and began using AI to improve her oversight of the portfolio. She shares how she combines income and expense data, monitors cash flow, tracks repairs, studies room performance, and evaluates potential acquisitions through her own AI-powered operating system.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    • Why Tanya chose Jacksonville for her out-of-state investments
    • The advantages of purchasing an operating co-living property
    • How a local property manager supports remote ownership
    • The true cost of combining PadSplit with property management
    • How Tanya uses AI to review income, expenses, and net cash flow
    • A simple way beginners can start analyzing portfolio data with AI
    • Why occupancy can significantly affect smaller co-living properties
    • What Tanya will look for in her next co-living acquisition
    • Why strong local relationships still matter in an AI-powered business

    Tanya’s advice for beginners is simple: start small. Export the data from your income and bookkeeping platforms, add it to an AI project, and begin asking questions about the performance of your portfolio.

    Connect with the hosts:
    Miller McSwain
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    Craig Curelop
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    Connect with Tanya: https://www.facebook.com/tanya.larina.9066

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    53 分
  • Ep 26 - Co-Living Arbitrage: The Low-Capital Way to Scale
    2026/08/06

    Can you scale a co-living business without buying every property?

    In this episode, Miller and Craig are joined by Dave Edwards, founder of CoLiving Operations, for a detailed breakdown of co-living arbitrage.

    Instead of purchasing a property and taking on a mortgage, an arbitrage operator leases the home from its owner, receives permission to operate it as a co-living property, and rents the individual rooms. This can reduce the capital needed to get started while potentially producing stronger monthly cash flow.

    Dave walks through his first co-living arbitrage deal: a six-bedroom property leased for $1,450 per month. He explains how he negotiated the agreement, paid for the setup and improvements, recovered his investment during the first year, and eventually sold his position in the lease.

    The conversation also covers the realities and risks of this strategy, including vacancies, local regulations, renovation expenses, landlord communication, lease obligations, and the importance of having a clear exit clause.

    In this episode:

    • How co-living arbitrage works
    • How to find motivated property owners
    • The pitch that can make arbitrage attractive to landlords
    • Residential versus commercial lease structures
    • Why longer lease terms protect your investment
    • Security deposits, furnishings, walls, and startup expenses
    • Negotiating free rent during renovations
    • Comparing arbitrage cash flow with ownership
    • Protecting yourself with an exit clause
    • Using arbitrage to test a new market
    • Building trust that could lead to seller financing or ownership
    • Deciding whether arbitrage or purchasing is right for you

    Arbitrage may not provide appreciation, mortgage paydown, or the same tax advantages as ownership, but it can offer a faster and less capital-intensive way to build cash flow and operating experience.

    Connect with Miller McSwain:
    https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain

    Connect with Craig Curelop:
    https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    Connect with Dave Edwards:
    https://www.instagram.com/djedwards83

    Follow The Co-Living Show for more practical conversations about acquiring, operating, managing, and scaling co-living properties.

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    54 分
  • EP 25 - 8 Things We Look for Before Buying a Co-Living Property
    2026/07/30

    Not every large house is a good co-living investment.

    In this solo episode, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break down the eight factors they evaluate before buying a property for co-living. Drawing from their experience acquiring and operating dozens of homes, they explain how neighborhood demand, property layout, parking, bathroom ratios, and other details can determine whether a deal succeeds or becomes an operational headache.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    • Why Class B and C neighborhoods often work best for co-living
    • The property size and bedroom count Craig and Miller target
    • How they turn a six-bedroom house into a 10-bedroom co-living property
    • Why parking can become a major deal breaker
    • Their preferred bedroom-to-bathroom ratio
    • How floor plans affect revenue and renovation costs
    • Why they avoid HOAs—even when the monthly fee is low
    • The red flags they look for before making an offer
    • Why attractive listing photos can directly affect occupancy
    • How common areas and private suites can improve the resident experience

    Whether you’re analyzing your first co-living property or refining your acquisition criteria, this episode gives you a practical checklist to use before making an offer.

    Follow Miller McSwain on Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain/

    Follow Craig Curelop on Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop/

    Follow The Co-Living Show for more conversations about acquiring, designing, operating, and scaling profitable co-living properties.

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    47 分
  • EP 24 - Building a Co-Living Portfolio While Traveling the World
    2026/07/23

    What if your real estate portfolio could support your lifestyle instead of controlling it?

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down with Eric Lafon to break down how he is using house hacking and co-living to build financial and geographic freedom.

    After being laid off from his software job just before Christmas, Eric moved to Denver and took action on a goal he had been considering for years. He purchased a four-bedroom property, converted it into seven rentable bedrooms, and now generates approximately $7,000 per month in rental income.

    Eric shares how he purchased the property with only 5% down, invested roughly $57,000 between the down payment and renovations, and now earns approximately $1,700 per month in cash flow after expenses and reserves.

    They also discuss:

    • How to identify properties with co-living potential
    • Why large homes with fewer bedrooms can be hidden opportunities
    • The challenges of living with your residents
    • Creating house rules without making the home feel overly restrictive
    • Screening residents and setting expectations from the beginning
    • Building community without forcing it
    • Managing maintenance, turnovers, and communication remotely
    • Buying his second house hack while traveling in Pakistan
    • Adjusting room pricing and marketing during slower rental seasons
    • Using systems and local vendors to operate properties from anywhere
    • Eric’s plan to scale through partnerships and additional house hacks

    Eric’s story offers a practical path for anyone who wants to enter co-living without immediately purchasing a large portfolio. He proves that you can start with one house hack, learn the operational side firsthand, and gradually build systems that give you more freedom.

    Follow Eric on Instagram:
    www.instagram.com/soylafon

    Follow the hosts:
    Craig Curelop: www.instagram.com/craigcurelop
    Miller McSwain: www.instagram.com/millermcswain

    Join The Co-Living Community:
    www.millermcswain.com/community

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    1 時間 5 分
  • EP 23 - The Truth About Co-Living Laws Every Investor Needs to Know
    2026/07/16

    Most investors focus on finding deals.

    Very few think about changing the laws that determine whether those deals are even possible.

    In this episode, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by legislative attorney Sam Hooper to unpack the legal side of co-living. They discuss zoning, occupancy limits, housing policy, and why creating better legislation is ultimately more powerful than relying on loopholes or gray areas.

    You'll hear about:

    • The biggest legal obstacles facing co-living operators
    • The difference between occupancy limits and zoning restrictions
    • States leading the way in co-living legislation
    • How investors can work with lawmakers to improve housing policy
    • Why long-term success depends on changing the rules—not just working around them

    If you want to build a scalable co-living business that can stand the test of time, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

    Follow us on Instagram:

    Craig: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop
    Miller: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain
    Sam: https://www.instagram.com/legelawyer

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    1 時間 6 分
  • EP 22 - How We Took a Co-Living Portfolio From 50% to 90% Occupancy
    2026/07/08

    Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down for a solo episode of The Co-Living Show to unpack how they took a struggling co-living portfolio from around 50% occupancy to 90% occupancy in just a few months.

    This was not a simple “post better listings and fill the rooms” story.

    Before the turnaround, the portfolio had major operational issues. Owners were frustrated, residents were unhappy, vendors had concerns, systems were inconsistent, houses were set up differently, and occupancy was far below where it needed to be.

    Craig brought the acquisition and growth side. Miller brought the operational systems, leasing process, marketing structure, and resident experience. Together, they walked through the hard process of cleaning up the portfolio, standardizing the houses, communicating with owners and residents, fixing the leasing funnel, and rebuilding trust.

    In this episode, Craig and Miller talk about the real lessons from the turnaround, including why top-of-funnel marketing, conversion, pricing, tours, retention, resident experience, and change management all had to work together.

    You’ll hear how they approached:

    • Taking over 20+ co-living houses
    • Standardizing property systems
    • Improving resident communication
    • Handling messy transitions
    • Rebuilding listings across Zillow, Roomies, Facebook Marketplace, and Apartments.com
    • Using better photos, videos, pricing, and automation
    • Testing different follow-up and conversion strategies
    • Moving from resident-led tours to self-guided tours
    • Adding welcome baskets, calls, community events, and referral opportunities

    This episode is especially useful for co-living investors and operators who want to scale without creating operational chaos.

    Connect with Craig and Miller:

    Miller McSwain
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/millermcswain

    Craig Curelop
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/craigcurelop

    Join The Co-Living Community:
    www.millermcswain.com/community

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    55 分