What if the biggest lie in the music industry is the one most artists believe?

In this episode of The Chris & Sandy Show, we sit down with Jason Hollis — music producer, visual artist, entrepreneur, and founder of Nashville’s iconic Eighth Room — for a deep, honest conversation about what it really takes to build a lasting career in music.

With over 30 years in the industry, Jason shares why artists don’t need record labels, managers, or agents early on — they need ownership, accountability, and a clear plan. His upcoming book, So You Want to Be a Rockstar, was born out of decades of hard lessons, failures, and wins — and it’s designed to help artists stop waiting to be saved and start building real momentum

In this episode, we talk about:

• Growing up in Louisiana and learning grit, culture, and commitment
• Moving back to Nashville after years in Los Angeles
• Saving the historic Douglas Corner and reimagining it as The Eighth Room
• Why chasing record labels can actually hold artists back
• The importance of failure, resilience, and celebrating losses
• How artists can build sustainable careers with true fans
• Why AI, algorithms, and streaming platforms threaten creativity
• The power of visualization, planning, and long-term thinking

Jason also opens up about the unseen sacrifices behind success, the role of family and team, and why music must continue to be protected, nurtured, and passed to the next generation

This episode is a must-listen for musicians, creatives, entrepreneurs, and anyone chasing a dream that requires patience, discipline, and belief.

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Country music artist Craig Campbell joins The Chris & Sandy Show for an honest and inspiring conversation about longevity, faith, family, and navigating the ups and downs of a music career without losing yourself along the way.

Craig opens up about his new single “Missing You,” which recently charted at country radio—his first national charting single since 2018. Instead of pressure, Craig shares why this moment simply represents gratitude: still being here and still doing what he loves.

In this episode, Craig reflects on his journey from arriving in Nashville with almost nothing, grinding it out on Lower Broadway, playing piano for Luke Bryan and Tracy Byrd, and building a career that’s included chart-topping hits, label closures, reinvention, and independence.

We also dive into the unexpected success of Grindstone Cowboy, the coffee shop and music venue Craig and his wife Mindy launched after COVID shut down live music—now growing into multiple locations with plans to expand even further.

This conversation goes beyond music, touching on faith, resilience, teamwork, authenticity, and why chasing success without losing your identity matters more now than ever.

• What “Missing You” represents in this chapter of Craig’s life

• Why returning to country radio came without pressure

• Trusting God with outcomes instead of chasing validation

• The grind most people never see in the music business

• Playing Lower Broadway five nights a week

• Touring in vans and setting up PA systems

• Being dropped by a label during a career high

• Finding new opportunity with Broken Bow Records

• Building Grindstone Cowboy with his family

• Singing the National Anthem at NFL games

• The importance of surrounding yourself with the right team

• Staying authentic in a fast-changing, AI-driven world

• Advice for artists chasing the same dream

• Why Craig proudly defines himself as a family man

You’ll also hear some lighter moments, including favorite foods, memorable fan experiences, and a fun appearance from our youngest co-host.

Craig Campbell’s story is a reminder that success isn’t always loud or overnight—but faith, persistence, and authenticity can sustain a career for the long haul.

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Real conversations with artists, creators, and dreamers who keep showing up.

In this special episode, we sit down with Janelle Arthur for one of her most personal conversations yet — even while fighting off a cold and keeping things under 30 minutes. Janelle opens up about her new solo-written and solo-produced song “Who You Ask,” a piece born from a season of wrestling with identity, judgment, exhaustion, surrender, and faith.

This isn’t a “polished Nashville co-write.”

It’s real.

It’s raw.

It’s her internal dialogue turned into music.

What started as fragmented lines written in the car, the shower, and late-night moments of self-reflection became the most literal and vulnerable song she has ever released — and she tells us exactly how it happened.

• Why she almost “grieved” her career and let go of forcing outcomes

• The shocking moment when a venue criticized her outfit and sparked the first line of the song

• How people judge her in completely opposite ways — sometimes celebrated, sometimes dismissed

• The tension of being “the new girl” to some and “old news” to others

• Why she stopped writing for the industry and wrote this one for her soul

• The fear of releasing a solo-written track with no one to blame if people don’t like it

• How her faith keeps her grounded in purpose rather than pressure

• The difference between who she was on American Idol and who she is today

• Her favorite career memory involving Dolly Parton — and her daughter’s surprising due date

• What she hopes she never forgets as she moves into music, film, and motherhood

If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, judged, mislabeled, or unsure of where you fit — this conversation is for you. Janelle’s honesty is refreshing, grounding, and deeply relatable. “Who You Ask” is more than a song; it’s a mirror for anyone navigating identity in a noisy world.

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