In February, the country broke an ominous record: over 68,000 people were being held in detention by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than ever before. President Trump has set a goal of deporting one million people from the United States annually—aiming to blow past the previous record, from 2013, of 432,000 deportations in a year.

In order to achieve these draconian indicators of success, agents tasked with arresting and detaining immigrants are looking everywhere for possible targets. In an April 2025 speech, Border Czar Tom Homan told undocumented immigrants to “be looking over your shoulder.” Since then, immigrants—including many with legal status or on a path to adjusting their status—have been arrested everywhere from the grocery store to the courtroom. On any given day, some 60,000 people, most without any criminal record, are held in the more than 200 detention centers scattered across the United States.

What can local communities who want to fight back do about this? Journalist John Washington’s new book, How to Close a Camp: Dispatches from the Fight against Immigrant Detention, offers some possible answers. Coming out July 21 from Haymarket Books, the book offers a history of the use of detention camps in the United States, but it also provides a detailed compilation of resources for communities looking to investigate licenses, contracts, and environmental compliances as possible pressure points.

John spoke with Border Chronicle reporter Caroline Tracey about How to Close a Camp for this week’s podcast and about how, as he writes, “understanding that immigration detention camps are not abstract federal machines. They are, rather, deeply embedded in local political economies [via] zoning permits and tax breaks, local health departments that license medical providers, and municipal governments that issue for food services and utility hookups. Every one of these nodes is a potential pressure point.”

Border Chronicle founders, Todd and Melissa, talk about how law enforcement surveillance, high-speed chases instigated by Border Patrol, unwarranted searches and seizures, and other heavy-handed policing that border communities have endured for decades has now moved into the interior of the country. They also discuss Todd’s upcoming book on climate change and the Rio Grande, and recent Border Chronicle community events in the borderlands —stay tuned for more in the Fall! And they talk about the Trump administration’s attempt to install 500 miles of buoy barriers on the Rio Grande, and walls that are currently being built through environmentally sensitive areas, sacred sites and areas where there has historically been little migration.

This conversation, hosted by Todd Miller, about a great borderlands adobe brick building project is going great, until Jacques Servin—of the political performance artist trickster and activist troupe called the Yes Men—fails to grasp the meaning of the term "border security" — at least how it’s conveyed to the world by the high brass of the Department of Homeland Security. Though frustrating at first, this leads to a fruitful philosophical conversation and then a possibly paradigm-shifting one. Listen all the way to the end for a provocative proposal about next year’s Border Security Expo.