Andrew Widdall of Unibit Solutions joins Mike to talk about the evolution of SEO, the rise of AI search, and why digital marketers have spent the last year trying to separate real strategy from internet panic. They dig into search visibility, client expectations, recurring revenue, and what businesses need to understand about investing in long-term digital growth instead of chasing shortcuts.

Along the way, the conversation shifts into agency operations, leadership, and the realities of supporting hundreds of clients across a global network. From WSI partnerships and Supplier of the Year recognition to perfectionism, process, and client expectations, Andrew shares why the best results still come from doing the fundamentals exceptionally well, even when the industry keeps chasing the next shiny object.

Gina Marie Mattei, the Marketing Maven of Revelation Creative joins Mike for this week’s episode that starts as a conversation about B2B marketing and somehow turns into a full breakdown of agency life, client relationships, leadership burnout, and why experienced operators eventually develop sarcasm as a defense mechanism. They talk about trust, communication, creative strategy, and the difference between agencies that actually care about partnership versus agencies just trying to survive another quarter.

Along the way, Gina absolutely unloads on Mike, exposing his stress habits, his inability to slow down, and the very real possibility that he’s spent most of his career functioning as an emotional support system disguised as a COO. There’s sharp marketing insight, operational therapy, and enough laughter at Mike’s expense to make this feel less like a podcast episode and more like two industry veterans sitting in a parking lot after a conference trying to recover from agency life.

This bonus episode gets uncomfortably honest pretty fast. Producer Emily Lundy joins Ops Mike to break down Digital Puppet, the OPS-285 track about burnout, staffing chaos, digital overload, and realizing your nervous system has been running on pure cortisol since Q2. They unpack the real stories behind the lyrics, the pressure of agency ops life, and what happens when “I’ll just push through it” quietly turns into survival mode.

There’s therapy talk, resignation trauma, browser-tab rage, emotional support gym sessions, and Mike openly admitting he cried in a parking lot before a dentist appointment. Massive moment for the Angry Ops Guy brand.

Full song track at the end. Congratulations, you broke this Ops guy.