The second part of my chat with football writer Jonathan Wilson. Here, Jonathan talks about reading as a superpower; alternative definitions of talent; the challenges facing journalism and newspapers; the thirst for long-form content; the "camaraderie of the pack"; and a man with an alarming facial tattoo.

Our latest Jonathan is a renowned football journalist and author. Here, he talks about his formative days in Sunderland and the inevitability of leaving; teaching in an Indian monastery; reading MOST of Dickens; catching the back end of the "old-school atmosphere" of sports journalism at the News of the World; subbing Richie Benaud (!); his early trips to the Africa Cup of Nations; writing for the FT; his first book deal; and an unfortunate accidental disguise on a bus...

Jonathan talks about the "loud and visceral" experience of launching an agency; winning a huge financial client (and later suing them); securing an incredible deal to sell his company; the relationship between capital and innovation; the joy of writing and music; and mentoring the next generation.

Jonathan is the founder of And Rising, a creative studio and investor in new consumer brands. In this first part of our conversation, he talks about the entrepreneurial influence of his mum's nail salon; his foray into the music industry as a teenager; getting the advertising bug and knowing from day one that he wanted his own agency; a carefully plotted career; and the creation of a new company.

Jo is the co-founder of the people transformation consultancy BirdSoup. Hear her talk about quick maths in a bakery during childhood; male-dominated environments; the digital industry before it became sophisticated; assumptions that bosses make about working mums; "DEI roulette"; new ideas and intuition as a superpower; "the Golden Rule" and reciprocity; girls' and women's football; and swearing at work...

Rebecca is the COO at Poppy's, a company that takes a fresh approach to funerals. Here, she talks about being an "organiser of everything"; working on the Labour Party account in the run-up to the 2001 election; the challenges facing working mums in advertising; the superpower of having a great radar ; finding joy as a "specialist generalist"; and maintaining the values of ethical businesses as they grow.

The podcast Rebecca recommends is Where There's A Will, There's A Wake.

We rejoin Glen in South Africa with the "smell of jacaranda and ambition" in his nostrils. Hear about an early Unilever ultimatum; the best networking braai imaginable; the incredible fortitude of a business partner; hiring waiting staff to work in advertising; being "a good client person" and the gift of building teams globally; disdain for "corner office jockeys"; and a possible future advising the church...

Glen is Omnicom Advertising's CEO for Europe. Hear about his early life, from his grandfather's workshop to setting up a furniture company at the age of 17. A life-changing game of Scrabble. A buttock-clenching interview involving small change. Formative years in advertising and influential bosses who actually had TIME. And the benefits of working on unpopular pieces of business.