David "Tank" Abbott returns for part 4 as the team quotes directly from Tito Ortiz's autobiography This Is Gonna Hurt and gets Tank's raw, unfiltered response to every claim. From Tito's glue-sniffing childhood hallucinations and shocking family stories to the infamous stolen check incident, training sessions where Tito claims he dominated Tank on the mat, UFC blackballing accusations, early weight-class politics, and more — nothing is off-limits.Tank breaks down Tito's version of their training relationship, sets the record straight on his own wrestling background and real street-fighting roots, and explains why he believes Tito's entire persona was manufactured. The conversation also covers Chuck Liddell's actual contender path versus hand-picked opponents, the "Tito Ortiz rule" at 205 lbs, and a tease into Big John McCarthy's book.

This is pure, no-holds-barred MMA history from one of the sport's original street fighters and pioneers.If you want the real stories behind early UFC, the men who actually lived it, and zero corporate filter, this is essential viewing.Subscribe & hit the bell for more legendary interviews preserving mixed martial arts history. Drop your thoughts on Tito's book in the comments.

0:00 start

0:49 MMA history podcast intro

1:22 Joey Venti’s guest introduction

1:48 interview start

2:43 Tito Ortiz in the hospital

3:28 Prologue about sniffing glue

7:54 thoughts after meeting Tito Ortiz

10:50 Tito Ortiz requesting for 205lb weight class

13:38 running into Wanderlei Silva

17:46 Tito Ortiz receiving hand picked opponents

22:49 Tito Ortiz screwing over Dana White

26:08 mother becoming “Lady of the evening”

28:31 Tito Ortiz stealing a blank check book

31:51 Tito Ortiz stealing from Tanks home

34:20 becoming financially stable

36:35 1st book review

37:47 arrested for stealing a car

40:09 Tito Ortiz amateur wrestling career

43:35 2nd book review

45:25 wrestling coach Paul Herrera

48:15 stealing “the Huntington Beach bad boy” name

52:15 3rd book review

53:50 Tito Ortiz training with Tank Abbott

57:17 Tank Abbott athletic background

59:04 learning how to wrestle

1:04:45 4th book review

1:07:17 advice from Tank Abbott to Tito Ortiz

1:10:56 street fight rumor with John Matua

1:16:22 5th book review

1:17:17 Tito Ortiz getting over on people

1:21:16 Tito Ortiz bringing hard work ethic to training

1:25:44 Tito Ortiz moving out of California

1:27:54 Reaching out for money to pay for attorney

1:34:05 Tito Ortiz blackballed from the UFC

1:36:44 Confronted over stollen golf clubs

1:44:50 Tito Ortiz caught stealing a bike

1:49:51 using Tank Abbotts influence to get back in the UFC

1:51:08 interactions with Tito Ortiz’s mom

1:52:52 thoughts on fighter taking steroids

1:55:43 John McCartny upset when people response

2:00:22 clearing up some statements

2:08:33 Tank Abbott vs John McCartny

2:14:50 interview wrap up/ outro

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