In this episode of Talkin’ Dirt, I sit down with Jack from Farmer Jack’s Garden in the Yakima Valley. Jack has spent a lifetime around agriculture, starting on a cattle and grain farm in northeastern Washington and continuing that work through decades of growing his own food at home.

In this conversation, Jack shares how gardening stayed with him through a full career in law enforcement, eventually turning into a small-scale operation where he and his wife Diann sold grapes, popcorn on the cob, and hundreds of pounds of beets each year directly to their community. We get into how that all came together and what it looks like to build something like that over time.

We also talk through soil health, natural growing methods, and the systems Jack has developed over the years to grow productive crops without relying on chemicals. He shares practical insights on irrigation, composting, pest management, and what it takes to consistently grow good food in a dry climate like the Yakima Valley.

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In this episode of Talkin' Dirt, I sit down with Andre Entermann. Andre runs Sunnyfield Farm with his wife out on Lopez Island, where they’ve been building a small-scale goat dairy focused on thoughtful, hands-on production.

In this conversation, Andre shares how years of traveling and working on organic farms eventually led him to settle on Lopez and start farming for himself. We get into the realities of dairying goats, the process of making cheese, and the amount of work that goes into turning milk into something you’re proud to sell.

We also talk through the tension between traditional cheesemaking and modern food safety regulations in the U.S.—how pasteurization, testing requirements, and state-by-state rules shape what small producers are able to do, and what can get lost along the way. We get into herd management, the role of community on the island, and what it takes to keep a small farm running in a way that’s actually sustainable.

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In this episode of Talkin’ Dirt, I sit down with Shawn Bruckman in Eagle, Colorado — a soil health specialist, worm farmer, and someone who has built a career around understanding what’s happening beneath our feet.

Shawn shares her journey from studying environmental policy to becoming a local expert in soil biology, composting, and regenerative practices. The conversation explores her work with The Ground Up and Wiggle Worm Gardens, along with her experience helping develop a composting facility in Eagle County.

We get into worms, compost, and the living biology inside soil — including how red wigglers produce nutrient-rich castings, what healthy soil actually looks like under a microscope, and how building soil can reduce the need for costly inputs.

The episode also touches on water challenges in the West, the importance of native plants, and the connection between soil health, food, and human health.

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