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TO BE CONTINUED...Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors

TO BE CONTINUED...Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors

著者： Rabbi Jeff Salkin
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Welcome to our podcast, TO BE CONTINUED… Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors, where we explore the intersections of memory, identity, and resilience.

Our goal is to lift up the experiences of children and grandchildren of Holocaust survivors, and to ask how survivors’ memories shaped their lives. How did resilience help form who they are today? And what legacy will they leave for the generations that follow?

Within the next 10 years, most survivors will be gone. As the world loses these witnesses of the truths of the Holocaust, second- and third-generation voices are more important than ever.

Carry these voices forward: Listen to TO BE CONTINUED… Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors. Copyright 2026 All rights reserved. スピリチュアリティ ユダヤ教 社会科学
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  • Judy Batalion: Trauma Moves Through Generations — But So Does Strength

    Judy Batalion: Trauma Moves Through Generations — But So Does Strength
    2026/08/10
    This episode is generously sponsored by Gail and Dennis Roth in loving memory of Gail's parents, Frances and Meyer Weisman who were both born in Czechoslovakia. Frances survived both Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen and Meyer endured various hard labor camps. They were thrilled to arrive in New York in 1949, to begin a new life together. New York Times bestselling author Judy Batalion grew up in a house in Montreal that was filled to the brim: her mother and grandmother had suffered from compulsive hoarding. It could in part be attributed to years they spent as nomads, fleeing from the impact of the Holocaust. "One of the metaphoric poetic real reasons that I instinctively feel with my mother was that her stuff was security. It was safety. She literally formed barricades around her with stuff. She was holding on to something." In this conversation with Rabbi Jeff Salkin, Judy Batalion pieces together what she knows of her grandparents' survival and her mother's childhood. She also discusses her own lifelong anxiety along with her interpretation of her father's belief that anxious people were the ones who survived the Holocaust. As a young adult, Judy left home for Harvard and then London, deliberately escaping that landscape and building the opposite kind of life: minimalist, orderly, white-walled. She became an art historian working in the British museum world, as far from her family's history as she could get. Years later, she found herself writing three books about exactly the world she had left behind. Judy Batalion is a New York Times bestselling author of award-winning nonfiction and fiction. She is the author of The Light of Days: The Untold Story of Women Resistance Fighters in Hitler's Ghettos, for which Steven Spielberg's Amblin Partners has optioned the film rights, and White Walls: A Memoir About Motherhood, Daughterhood, and the Mess in Between, optioned by Warner Brothers for development as a television series titled Cluttered. Her latest novel, The Last Woman of Warsaw, is a story of friendship, love, and home set in Warsaw on the eve of World War II. Her essays have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Vogue, among other publications. She earned her bachelor's degree at Harvard and a PhD from the University of London, and has worked as a museum curator, a university lecturer, and a stand-up comic. The granddaughter of Holocaust survivors, she grew up in Montreal and now lives in New York City with her husband and three children. Transcript: [00:00:08:02 - 00:00:19:11] This episode of To Be Continued is sponsored by Gail and Dennis Roth in loving memory of Gail's parents, Frances and Meyer Weisman who were both born in Czechoslovakia. [00:00:20:21 - 00:00:41:11] Frances survived both Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen and Meyer endured various hard labor camps. They were thrilled to arrive in New York in 1949, to begin a new life together. Welcome to To Be Continued..., Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors. I'm your host, Rabbi Jeff Salkin. [00:00:43:05 - 00:00:51:08] In this podcast, we explore how the Holocaust continues to shape the lives of the children and grandchildren of survivors. [00:00:52:26 - 00:01:10:03] Our conversations begin with stories of survival, but beyond those experiences to examine the profound impact the Holocaust has had on the generations that followed, their identities, their relationships, their choices, and their sense of responsibility. [00:01:11:17 - 00:01:16:26] Jewish tradition teaches us the importance of l'dor v'dor, from generation to generation. [00:01:18:10 - 00:01:26:20] Each generation receives a story, but also has the opportunity to interpret it and to give that story new meaning. [00:01:28:15 - 00:01:38:20] Through conversations with descendants of survivors, we explore the intersections of memory, identity, and resilience, asking how did those memories form you? [00:01:39:28 - 00:01:46:29] How did resilience shape the person you became, and what legacy will you leave for those who come after you? [00:01:48:11 - 00:01:56:02] My guest today is Judy Batalion, a New York Times bestselling author of award-winning nonfiction and fiction. [00:01:57:11 - 00:02:03:04] Her work has brought powerful stories of Jewish courage and resistance to readers around the world. [00:02:04:05 - 00:02:26:03] Her essays have appeared in the New York Times, The Washington Post, and Vogue, among other publications. She earned her bachelor's degree at Harvard and a PhD from the University of London, and she has worked as a museum curator and university lecturer. Today, Judy lives in New York City with her husband and her three children. [00:02:27:25 - 00:02:42:10] As the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors, Judy grew up in Montreal with her parents, her younger brother, and the house that was overflowing with the possessions her mother struggled to part with. [00:02:43:22 - 00:03:04:24] Her family was shaped by the experiences of her maternal ...
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  • Dara Bratt and Michelle Rose: Tattoos, The Evolution of Holocaust Remembrance

    Dara Bratt and Michelle Rose: Tattoos, The Evolution of Holocaust Remembrance
    2026/07/06
    The real question isn't simply whether Judaism prohibits tattoos. We know the Torah speaks against them. Holocaust survivors imprisoned at Auschwitz II-Birkenau did not choose their tattooed numbers — they were an act of degradation and dehumanization. But what happens when descendants of Holocaust survivors choose to use that traditionally prohibited practice as an act of sacred remembrance? Is this a break with tradition, or an attempt to fulfill one of Judaism's greatest commandments: Zachor— to remember? In this powerful episode of TO BE CONTINUED..., Rabbi Jeff Salkin sits down with award-winning documentary filmmaker Dara Bratt and third-generation Holocaust descendant Michelle Ekstein Rose to explore one of the most unexpected and moving expressions of Holocaust remembrance today: commemorative tattoos. Dara shares the story behind her acclaimed short documentary Inked: Our Stories Remarked, which follows children and grandchildren of Holocaust survivors who have chosen to etch their family's Holocaust legacy onto their bodies. Michelle opens up with her grandmother Anita Ekstein's extraordinary story of survival in Nazi-occupied Poland, and the deeply personal tattoos she carries in her grandmother's and her great-grandfather's honor. Together, they challenge us to ask what it truly means to remember, to reclaim, and to pass a legacy forward, and whether something some consider religiously prohibitive can become an act of devotion. This is an episode about "ink", identity, resilience, and the evolving ways each generation carries the legacy of the Holocaust. It will spur conversations; it will stay with you long after you listen. Michelle Rose is a third-generation descendant of four Holocaust survivors and a passionate community activist dedicated to Holocaust remembrance, education, and justice. Raised with the stories of her grandparents woven into the fabric of her identity, Michelle was particularly shaped by her grandmother Anita Ekstein, a prominent Holocaust educator and survivor who escaped Nazi persecution through extraordinary acts of courage and kindness from righteous gentiles. Michelle lives in Toronto, Canada with her husband and two young sons. Dara Bratt is an award-winning director and film producer whose work has screened at prestigious festivals around the world, including Tribeca, SXSW, and the Abu Dhabi International Film Festival. Known for shining a light on extraordinary and unconventional stories, Dara was drawn to the powerful and little-known phenomenon of Holocaust commemorative tattoos after a conversation with a professor researching how tattoos can heal trauma. That curiosity led her to create Inked: Our Stories Remarked, a short documentary exploring how grandchildren of Holocaust survivors are etching family memory onto their bodies as acts of identity, resilience, and education. In June 2024, the film took first place in the Claims Conference Emerging Filmmaker Contest, chosen from 35 submissions across nine countries. Since its 2025 premiere, the film has screened at festivals and cultural institutions across North America. The film has received Best Female Director at the Istanbul Women Film Awards, Best Short Documentary at the New York Women Film Festival, and Best Historical Documentary at the Milan Indie Film Festival. It has also been featured in university classrooms at Loyola University New Orleans and Tulane University, where Bratt has guest lectured on Holocaust memory, identity, documentary storytelling, and intergenerational legacy. TRANSCRIPT: This episode is generously sponsored by Susan Singer in honor of her parents Yolanda and Siegmund Joseph, courageous Holocaust survivors from Czechoslovakia, who kept the memory of their lost families alive. You've heard it your whole life. If you get a tattoo, you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery. That might, or it might not, be true. Yes, of course, the prohibition is real. It's right there in the Book of Leviticus. It's unambiguous to not cut your bodies for the dead, or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord. But the cemetery thing -- in all likelihood -- it is probably a piece of communal folklore. It was a cautionary tale, most likely. The Jewish authorities invented it in order to keep Jews away from the needle and the ink. And yet, it hasn't exactly worked as a deterrent. It did for a while, but not in our time, tattoos have become something we could not have imagined a generation ago. The tattoo has become a fashion statement. and makes the body a canvas for identity. But you see, for Holocaust survivors... tattoos were not a choice. They were a mark of degradation. People decided that Jews were not people, but rather commodities, and they etched those numbers into their flesh. But for some of their children and grandchildren, that same act, marking the body, has become something almost unrecognizable. It has become a way to remember, a way to reclaim, a way to carry stories ...
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  • Charlie Scheidt & Kat Rohrer: Holocaust Descendants on Different Sides of History

    Charlie Scheidt & Kat Rohrer: Holocaust Descendants on Different Sides of History
    2026/06/08
    What happens when the son of a Holocaust survivor meets the granddaughter of a Nazi officer? In this powerful episode of TO BE CONTINUED... Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors, host Rabbi Jeff Salkin sits down with Charlie Scheidt and Kat Rohrer, co-authors of Inheritance: Love, Loss, and the Legacy of the Holocaust. Charlie grew up in a German Jewish household on New York's Upper West Side, surrounded by family members who had fled Nazi Germany, and a silence about the past that was deafening. When his mother died in 1988, she left behind an armoire filled with nearly a thousand documents: letters, visas, identity papers, and more. It would take Charlie twenty years before he could bring himself to open them. Kat is an award-winning Austrian filmmaker and the granddaughter of a devoted Nazi officer. Haunted by her family's role in one of history's darkest chapters, she had spent years grappling with what it means to carry that legacy. When they met, an extraordinary partnership was born. Over fifteen years, four trips to Europe, and hundreds of conversations, they pieced together a story of loss, memory, and unexpected connection. Together, they reflect on the silence that shaped them, the documents and discoveries that changed them, and why they believe that breaking that silence is the only way to ensure the oppressors don't own the story. TRANSCRIPT: This episode of our podcast is generously sponsored by Irene and David Beyth, in memory of David's parents, Hannah and Werner Beyth, who were both fortunate to escape Nazi Germany before the war. Let us start with a German lesson. The word is Erbe. It means both inheritance and legacy. Today's guests have spent more than a decade sitting with that word. One of them grew up in a German Jewish household on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, surrounded by relatives who had fled Nazi Germany in a family where the unspoken motto was "Forward, never back." The other grew up in postwar Austria. The granddaughter of a man who volunteered for the Wehrmacht, Hitler's united armed forces of Nazi Germany, and a family that kept its silence about what that meant and why. And yet remarkably these two people found each other. They traveled together through Germany, France, Austria, and the Netherlands on a joint journey of discovery and empathy. The result is a book called Inheritance - Love, Loss, and the Legacy of the Holocaust, a memoir unlike almost any other in the crowded literature of Holocaust memory because it is written across the deepest moral divide of the 20th century, between the descendants of victims and the descendants of perpetrators. Welcome to this podcast, To Be Continued... Reflections on Growing Up with Holocaust Survivors, where we explore the intersections of memory, identity, and resilience. Our goal is to lift up the experiences of children and grandchildren of Holocaust survivors and to ask how did those memories form you? How did resilience create you as the person you are today? And what is the legacy that you will leave to those who come after you? I am your host Rabbi Jeff Salkin, and our guests are Charlie Scheidt, born in New York City, the son of German Jewish refugees. His father Bruno fled Frankfurt in 1933. His mother Sous followed, as did many other close family members. But unfortunately others did not and became trapped in the Nazi Weis in Germany, Holland, and France. And when Charlie's mother died in 1988, she left behind an armoire containing nearly a thousand documents, letters, visas, identity papers, a baby's autopsy report...that Charlie could not bring himself to absorb and deal with for 20 years. Kat Rohrer is an award-winning Austrian filmmaker whose films include "Back to the Fatherland," a documentary about Israelis living in Germany. Her maternal grandfather was a devout Nazi officer, a true believer who died fighting in Yugoslavia before her mother was born. Her family, her mother, her grandmother, her great aunt -- who by the way married a Jew and escaped to Australia -- did not speak of him. Charlie and Kat met almost by accident when Kat was filming the 75th anniversary of Charlie's company, Roland Foods. He noticed she spoke German. A few months later he asked if she might help him translate some papers. She said yes because, as she told him, she had a personal interest in that period of history. It would be some time before he understood what that meant. Eventually she sent him an email. It was time she said that he knew her story. She told him that she had been haunted all her life by the same patch of ash that haunted his family. What followed was 15 years of research, four trips to Europe, hundreds of conversations with strangers who turned out to be guardians of forgotten memory and a book that refuses easy comfort, tidy conclusions, or the warm illusion that history is over. Today they are here to talk about all of it. Charlie and Kat welcome. It's good to have you here. Both of you ...
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    48 分
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