Burnout does not always look like collapse - sometimes it looks like “keeping up” until your body and mind force you to stop. Lisa shares the real story behind two burnout breakpoints, plus the simple reset framework that helped her reclaim her time, energy, and sanity.

Jennifer Benson sits down with Lisa, a change and resilience speaker and author of *Now What*, to unpack what happens when you keep taking on more while telling yourself to just work harder. Lisa’s first burnout came from a role that was impossible to win in, where long hours, constant pressure, and a “figure it out” culture pushed her to the edge. Her second wake-up call came years later, when she recognized the same slide toward overwhelm and chose to stop it before it took her under again.

**You’ll discover:**

- Why burnout often gets mistaken for personal failure

- The moment Lisa realized effort alone could not fix a broken situation

- How a simple pros-and-cons exercise helped her identify what to release

- The “delete, delegate, delay” framework her therapist introduced to cut overwhelm

- Why high performers struggle to stop doing everything themselves

- How her RESET framework turns a vague desire for change into actual action

Lisa also shares how she went from surviving burnout to helping others navigate change fatigue, especially in workplaces where AI, speed, and constant demands are pushing people past their limits. If you’ve been carrying too much, feeling guilty for not doing enough, or wondering whether it’s time to step back before you break down, this conversation will give you language, clarity, and practical next steps.

Essential listening for anyone who is overloaded, rebuilding after burnout, or ready to make a smarter shift before exhaustion makes the choice for them.