In this honest conversation, Natalie Grant & Bernie Herms open up about insecurity, ambition, and the hidden struggles behind worship ministry.

From chasing success to surrendering identity, this episode challenges what we think calling really looks like.

If you’ve ever wrestled with platform, purpose, or comparison, this one is for you.
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0:00 - Coming up
1:11 - Today’s Guests, Natalie Grant & Bernie Herms: Marriage and Ministry
8:44 - Bernie’s Music Journey
14:06 - The Fruit of Relationships
19:44 - Finding a Balance
24:20 - Ad: Amazing Kids - joinamazing.com
25:16 - Overcoming Insecurity and Ego
31:28 - Transformation: Performance vs. Presence
44:58 - Advice For The Next Generation
54:16 - Relevance and Longevity
1:10:27 - What Natalie and Bernie Burn For
1:17:36 - Final Thoughts

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