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  • EP4-2 |Tired of Losing the Taylor Swift Ticket Battle? This Startup in Taiwan to Fight Scalpers

    EP4-2 |Tired of Losing the Taylor Swift Ticket Battle? This Startup in Taiwan to Fight Scalpers
    2026/09/08
    Tired of Losing the Taylor Swift Ticket Battle? This Canadian Founder Built a Startup in Taiwan to Fight ScalpersIn this episode, we sit down with LK Shelley, co-founder of ARMCo Lab and FanID, to explore how a frustrating concert-ticket experience led her to found a startup in Taiwan. After seeing firsthand the problems of ticket scalping, long entry queues, and the privacy concerns surrounding real-name ticketing, Shelley set out to create a different approach: a “one person, one face, one ticket” system designed to verify that someone is a real person without storing their facial data.But FanID is about more than concert tickets. Shelley sees digital identity becoming increasingly important as AI-generated content, bots, and AI agents make it harder to know whether a real person is behind an account.We also explore her journey as a Canadian entrepreneur building in Taiwan, why she chose Taiwan for her startup, what she has discovered about the local ecosystem, and what international founders should consider before deciding to build here.In this episode, you'll learn:How a concert ticketing problem inspired the creation of FanIDWhy ticket scalping and identity verification remain difficult problems to solveHow FanID approaches identity verification while protecting user privacyWhy proving you are a real human may become increasingly important in the AI eraWhy Shelley chose Taiwan as a place to build her startupWhat Taiwan offers foreign founders—and where there is still room to improveWhat international founders should know before building a startup in Taiwan搶不到泰勒絲門票憤而創業！加拿大創辦人在台打造防黃牛身分驗證新解方 ft. ARMCo Lab 與 FanID 共同創辦人 LK Shelley搶演唱會門票總是不敵黃牛機器人？實名制又引發個資外洩的隱私疑慮？本集節目邀請到 ARMCo Lab 與 FanID 共同創辦人 LK Shelley，暢談她因自身搶票挫折而在台灣創辦新創的精彩歷程。面對猖獗的黃牛轉售與冗長的驗票進場人流，Shelley 開發出「一人、一臉、一張票」的去中心化匿名驗證機制，在不儲存用戶臉部生物特徵的前提下，精準驗證真實人身。在生成式 AI、機器人與代理人氾濫的時代，這套機制更延伸為數位世界中辨識「真人身分」的信任基石。同時，身為加拿大創業家的她，也大方分享為何選擇落腳台灣、在地創業生態的觀察，以及給海外創辦人的關鍵建議。本集重點：源自搶票痛點的創業契機：親歷演唱會黃牛狂潮與實名制爭議，催生對公平票務系統的全新想像兼顧驗證與隱私防護：落實「一人一臉一票」原則，不存留原始臉部影像即可確認真實人類身分AI 時代下的數位身分信任戰：防範深偽與自動化帳號泛濫，真人驗證機制成為未來數位世界核心基石外籍創業者為何落腳台灣：剖析台灣在工程人才庫與硬體供應鏈的關鍵優勢，以及持續進化的環境空間國際創辦人實戰生存指引：跨國創業者進入台灣生態系前，必須審慎評估的市場規模與法規文化要素📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph LisingSenior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團#GlobalFounders #TaiwanStartup #StartupEcosystem🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolojoseph/📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley HubWebsite: https://sv.startupisland.tw/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/ Powered by Firstory Hosting
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  • EP4-1 | From Scotland to Taiwan: Choosing the Co-Founder Who Can Make or Break Your Startup

    EP4-1 | From Scotland to Taiwan: Choosing the Co-Founder Who Can Make or Break Your Startup
    2026/08/31
    From Scotland to Taiwan: Choosing the Co-Founder Who Can Make or Break Your StartupIn this episode, we sit down with Rebecca (Ching Wen) Huang, founder of Founduz, to explore her journey from Taiwan to Scotland and back, and one of the most important decisions a founder can make: who to build a company with. Drawing from her experience as an international founder, her background in Global Mental Health, and her work building Founduz, Rebecca shares what she has learned about founder compatibility, relationships, community, and the challenges of building in a new ecosystem. We also explore what this means for international founders in Taiwan looking to find a local co-founder and build together across cultures.In this episode, you'll learn:Why co-founder dynamics are a top reason startups fail, and why values matter more than just complementary skillsHow emotional resilience and open communication help founders navigate disagreements, chaos, and stressThe importance of addressing uncomfortable topics early—such as equity split, financial runway, time commitment, and exit scenariosKey cultural differences between the Scottish ecosystem's focus on rapid global scaling and Taiwan's SME-to-international growth trajectoryActionable strategies for international and local founders to break out of their comfort zones, attend events, and build authentic networks in Taiwan從蘇格蘭到台灣：如何選擇決定創業成敗的共同創辦人？ ft. Founduz 創辦人 黃晴雯 Rebecca共同創辦人團隊的破裂，往往是新創公司失敗的前三大主因之一。本集節目邀請到 Founduz 創辦人 Rebecca，暢談她從台灣前往蘇格蘭再返鄉創業的跨國歷程，以及她如何將全球心理健康（Global Mental Health）專業背景融入創業思維。深入探討創業者在挑選事業夥伴時，如何跨越能力迷思，從溝通模式、情緒韌性到價值觀，精準建立穩固且健康的合夥關係。本集重點：能力互補更要價值對齊：挑選共同創辦人如同尋找人生伴侶，價值觀與願景契合度遠比技能清單更關鍵正視衝突與情緒韌性：在面對創業不確定性與壓力時，能否不帶個人情緒溝通歧見是團隊存續指標提早攤開敏感議題討論：股權分配、薪酬預期、承諾時間及退場機制，應在早期做好透明約定以防後患台灣與蘇格蘭創業生態差異：對比西方一開始鎖定規模化擴張思維，與台灣中小企業先穩固本地市場的策略路徑突破社交同溫層建立支持系統：透過社群活動與跨界交流，為跨國創業者打造專屬的人脈網絡與心理支持📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph LisingSenior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團#GlobalFounders #TaiwanStartup #StartupEcosystem🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolojoseph/📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley HubWebsite: https://sv.startupisland.tw/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/ Powered by Firstory Hosting
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  • EP3-51 | Why Foreign Gen Z Founders are Looking at Taiwan

    EP3-51 | Why Foreign Gen Z Founders are Looking at Taiwan
    2026/08/24
    Why Foreign Gen Z Founders are Looking at Taiwan

    What makes a Gen Z founder skip the traditional career path and instead build a deep-tech startup? In this episode, we sit down with Chai Chang Yao, co-founder of Buildables, a Singapore startup developing AI-powered engineering models that help manufacturers inspect products, optimize R&D, and coordinate machines, humanoids, and workers from a single command center.

    Chai shares why he started Buildables at such a young age, why Taiwan caught his attention as a market for expansion, and what he learned after joining AI TAIWAN. If you're curious about Taiwan's manufacturing ecosystem, the next generation of startup founders, or what it takes to build a global deep-tech company from Singapore, this conversation is for you.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • What Buildables is building and how it is transforming manufacturing engineering
    • Why Chai chose the startup path at such a young age
    • Why Taiwan stood out as a place to expand and build partnerships
    • What he learned from AI TAIWAN and Taiwan's startup ecosystem
    • Advice for founders looking to take their startup beyond their home market

    是什麼原因讓一位 Z 世代創辦人跳脫傳統升遷管道，直接投入深科技的創業領域？本集節目邀請到新加坡新創公司 Buildables 的共同創辦人 Chai Chang Yao。他們專門研發製造工程專用的 AI 系統模型，協助產線進行智慧品管檢驗、加速研發時程，並透過單一控制中心串接傳統機台、人形機器人與第一線作業員。

    Chai 在節目中暢談年紀輕輕就創立 Buildables 的初衷、選擇臺灣作為海外拓展關鍵市場的原因，以及參與 AI TAIWAN 後的實際觀察。若想深入了解臺灣製造產業鏈的實力、新世代創業思維，或如何從新加坡打造放眼全球的深度科技企業，絕對不能錯過這集精采訪談。

    本集重點內容：

    • Buildables 的核心技術，以及團隊如何翻轉製造工程與產線運作
    • Chai 選擇此時投身創業的關鍵動機
    • 臺灣在市場拓展與供應鏈合作上吸引海外新創的優勢
    • 參與 AI TAIWAN 獲得的第一手產業洞察與在地生態圈觀察
    • 給予有意跨出本土市場、布局國際的新創創辦人的實務建議

    📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph Lising
    Senior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團
    #GlobalFounders #TaiwanStartup #StartupEcosystem
    🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.
    🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolojoseph/


    📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u

    🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley Hub
    Website: https://sv.startupisland.tw/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/



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  • EP3-50 | The Gold in Taiwan’s Gold Card

    EP3-50 | The Gold in Taiwan’s Gold Card
    2026/08/17

    The Gold in Taiwan’s Gold Card

    In this episode, we sit down with Vivien Roggero, founder and CEO of Viorant, who shares his journey of building an AI startup in Taiwan through the Taiwan Employment Gold Card program. Drawing from his firsthand experience, Vivien explains why he chose Taiwan over other startup hubs, how the Gold Card became more than just a visa, and the lessons he learned while growing a company within Taiwan's innovation ecosystem. Whether you're considering relocating to Taiwan or simply curious about what it takes to launch a startup here, this episode offers practical advice and firsthand insights you won't find in an application guide.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why Vivien chose Taiwan as the home for Viorant
    • How the Taiwan Employment Gold Card became a business advantage
    • What international founders often misunderstand about building a startup in Taiwan
    • The opportunities and challenges of growing a company in Taiwan's startup ecosystem
    • Practical advice for founders considering Taiwan as their next destination

    本集節目邀請到 Viorant 創辦人暨執行長 Vivien Roggero，分享他如何透過台灣就業金卡（Taiwan Employment Gold Card）在台灣打造一家 AI 新創的歷程。Vivien 以親身經驗說明，他為何在眾多創業聚落中選擇台灣、金卡如何從一張簽證延伸為實質的事業助力，以及在台灣創新生態系中成長所學到的功課。無論你正考慮移居台灣，或只是好奇在這裡創業究竟需要什麼，本集都將提供申請指南上看不到的實務建議與第一手觀察。

    本集你將了解：

    • Vivien 為何選擇台灣作為 Viorant 的落腳處
    • 台灣就業金卡如何轉化為經營上的優勢
    • 國際創辦人在台灣創業時，最常見的誤解是什麼
    • 在台灣新創生態系中成長的機會與挑戰
    • 給正在評估以台灣為下一站的創辦人的實用建議

    📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph Lising
    Senior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團
    #GlobalFounders #TaiwanStartup #StartupEcosystem
    🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.
    🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolojoseph/


    📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u

    🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley Hub
    Website: https://sv.startupisland.tw/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/



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  • EP3-49｜【VC Talks】AI Education, Gen Z, and the Future of Learning: Why This Generation Is Never Bored

    EP3-49｜【VC Talks】AI Education, Gen Z, and the Future of Learning: Why This Generation Is Never Bored
    2026/08/10
    AI Education, Gen Z, and the Future of Learning: Why This Generation Is Never BoredGuest: Michael Cheng — Founder & CEO, Kikichat, and Ex-Managing Director, Drum Tower VenturesIn this episode, we speak with Kikichat founder & CEO and former Drum Tower Ventures Managing Director Michael Cheng, who spent two decades witnessing the rise of China’s startup ecosystem. He compares China’s survival-driven execution with Silicon Valley’s mission-driven innovation—and explains why Taiwan must expand beyond semiconductors into software ecosystems. Michael also explores why Gen Z may be the first generation to never experience boredom, how video became their default learning medium, and why constant digital stimulation can increase isolation. Finally, we discuss AI-powered education, the future role of teachers, and why successful startups must offer dramatically more value—not merely a 20% improvement.China vs. Silicon Valley: Survival-driven execution, rapid iteration, and breakthrough innovation in the AI eraFrom Alibaba, TikTok to new platforms: How Chinese startups capture human behavior, connection, entertainment, and boredomTaiwan’s next competitive advantage: Moving from semiconductor dominance to software ecosystemsGen Z’s video-first learning behavior: Constant stimulation, social isolation, co-watching, and collaborative learningAI-powered education startups: Video discovery, personalized learning, the future of teachers, and building products that are 10X betterAI 教育、Z 世代與學習的未來：為何這個世代不再感到無聊？在本集節目中，我們邀請到 Kikichat 創辦人兼執行長、前鼓樓創投（Drum Tower Ventures）董事總經理鄭偉立（Michael Cheng）。擁有二十年親歷中國新創生態系崛起歷程的經驗，他在節目中深入對比中國市場「生存導向」的極致執行力與矽谷「使命驅動」的突破性創新，並精準剖析臺灣為何必須跳脫半導體的單一優勢，跨足打造軟體生態系。Michael 亦分享了 Z 世代為何成為史上第一個與無聊絕緣的群體、影音內容如何躍升為他們首選的學習媒介，以及持續性的數位刺激又為何引發孤獨感。最後，我們探討了 AI 驅動的教育轉型、教師未來的全新角色，以及新創企業若想脫穎而出，為何必須提供跨越式的價值，而非僅僅兩成的邊際改善。中國與矽谷之爭：AI 時代下的生存導向執行力、快速迭代理念與突破性創新從阿里巴巴、TikTok 到新一代平台：中國新創企業如何精準掌握人類行為、社群連結、娛樂需求與解悶心理臺灣的下一個競爭優勢：從半導體製造龍頭轉型走向軟體生態系Z 世代以影音為核心的學習行為：持續性的數位刺激、社交孤立現象、共賞文化與協同學習模式AI 驅動的教育新創：影音探索、個人化學習體驗、教師的角色演變，以及打造優於現有產品十倍的破局之道📍 About Host: Uly SuGeneral Partner, Addins Venture#CrossBorderMentor #StartupExpansion #TaiwanToSiliconValley🌏 A cross-border mentor who supports startups in entering global markets, with deep experience in fundraising, talent strategy, and international operations across the U.S. and Taiwan.🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulysu/📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley HubWebsite: https://sv.startupisland.tw/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/ Powered by Firstory Hosting
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  • EP3-48 | Taiwan Meets Japan: How Founders Can Win in Each Other's Markets

    EP3-48 | Taiwan Meets Japan: How Founders Can Win in Each Other's Markets
    2026/08/03

    Taiwan Meets Japan: How Founders Can Win in Each Other's Markets

    Japan and Taiwan are neighbours with overlapping supply chains — yet founders crossing between them keep making the same avoidable mistakes.

    This episode features Kazumi Otani, a Japanese entrepreneur, investor, and Taiwan Gold Card holder who has invested in and supported startups across both ecosystems. She covers why founders should look beyond their home market, where each side goes wrong, and what actually works when expanding in either direction.

    In this episode:

    • Why Japanese founders should look at Taiwan, and Taiwanese founders at Japan
    • The biggest mistake founders make entering each other's markets
    • The best first step for expanding in either direction
    • What each ecosystem can learn from the other
    • The largest Taiwan–Japan opportunities over the next five years

    台日創業對話：如何在彼此的市場裡站穩腳步

    日本與台灣是鄰居，供應鏈高度交疊，但兩地創業者跨境時，卻總是重複犯下同樣能避免的錯誤。

    本集邀請日本創業家、投資人、台灣就業金卡持有者 Kazumi Otani。她長期投資並協助兩地新創，分享創業者為何不該只守著母國市場、雙方各自錯在哪裡，以及雙向擴張真正有效的做法。

    本集重點

    • 日本創業者為何該看台灣，台灣創業者為何該看日本
    • 進入對方市場最大的一個錯誤
    • 雙向擴張最有效的第一步
    • 台日新創能向彼此學到什麼
    • 未來五年台日合作最大的機會


    📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph Lising
    Senior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團
    #GlobalFounders #TaiwanStartup #StartupEcosystem
    🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.
    🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paolojoseph/


    📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u

    🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley Hub
    Website: https://sv.startupisland.tw/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/



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  • EP3-47 | 【 VC Talks 】The Last Programming Language: Why Prompts Could Replace Code

    EP3-47 | 【 VC Talks 】The Last Programming Language: Why Prompts Could Replace Code
    2026/07/27

    The Last Programming Language: Why Prompts Could Replace Code
    Guest: Greg Tanaka — CEO & Founder, Prompt Driven

    Writing code may no longer be the developer's primary job. Greg Tanaka argues that natural language is becoming the next — and perhaps final — programming language, drawing a parallel to semiconductor design's shift from hand-drawn schematics to Verilog: engineers didn't lose their craft, they moved up a level of abstraction. Tools like Claude Code, Cursor, and Codex are moving the developer's centre of gravity from authoring code to expressing intent and validating output.

    And if code is cheap to generate, it should be cheap to discard — hence Greg's case for "regenerate, don't patch," treating source as a disposable artifact and the prompt as the durable specification. The conversation covers how Vibe Coding and Prompt-Driven Development elevate human intent, how regeneration reshapes technical debt, and what the Verilog transition suggests about the junior engineer's path in an AI-driven industry.

    最後一種程式語言：為什麼提示詞可能取代程式碼
    來賓：Prompt Driven 創辦人暨執行長 Greg Tanaka

    寫程式碼，可能不再是開發者最主要的工作。Greg Tanaka 提出，自然語言正成為下一種、或許也是最後一種程式語言。他以半導體業從手繪電路圖轉向 Verilog 的歷史作為對照：工程師並未失去專業，而是往上跨了一個抽象層級。Claude Code、Cursor、Codex 這類工具，正把開發者的重心從「撰寫程式碼」移轉到「表達意圖」與「驗證產出」。

    而如果生成程式碼的成本極低，丟棄它的成本也應該很低——這正是「重新生成，而非修補」（regenerate, don't patch）的核心：原始碼是可拋棄的產物，提示詞才是需要長期維護的規格。本集也談到 Vibe Coding 與提示詞驅動開發如何把人類意圖放到最上位、重新生成如何改變技術債的處理方式，以及 Verilog 的歷史轉折對 AI 時代初階工程師的啟示。


    📍 About Host: Uly Su
    General Partner, Addins Venture
    #CrossBorderMentor #StartupExpansion #TaiwanToSiliconValley
    🌏 A cross-border mentor who supports startups in entering global markets, with deep experience in fundraising, talent strategy, and international operations across the U.S. and Taiwan.
    🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulysu/

    📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u

    🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley Hub
    Website: https://sv.startupisland.tw/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/
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  • EP3-46 | The Taiwan Advantage: The Connections Every Global Founder Should Make

    EP3-46 | The Taiwan Advantage: The Connections Every Global Founder Should Make
    2026/07/20

    In this episode, we sit down with Cher Sion, Quan, Chairman and Advisor of 3D/CP-GENAI, to discuss why he chose Taiwan as the launchpad for AI-powered 3D-printed construction. Beyond the technology, Quan shares his vision for Taiwan's role in the future of construction, the opportunities he believes many international founders overlook, and the connections that helped him establish his business here. For global entrepreneurs considering Taiwan, this episode offers practical insights into building the right network and navigating the local startup ecosystem.

    • Why Taiwan is an ideal market for AI-powered 3D printed construction
    • Opportunities in Taiwan that many foreign founders overlook
    • Taiwan's place in the future of construction innovation
    • The key organizations and connections that helped launch 3DCPGENAI
    • Practical advice for international entrepreneurs looking to build a business in Taiwan


    📍 About Host: Paolo Joseph Lising
    Senior Global Community Builder, Business Next Media Corp. 巨思媒體集團
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    🌏 Helping foreign founders navigate Taiwan’s startup ecosystem by bringing together founders, investors, and innovators to share practical insights and support more global startups in Taiwan.
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    📚 Learn more about Taiwan’s startup ecosystem 👉🏼 https://meetstartup.pse.is/4jhd5u

    🚀 Stay connected with Taiwan–Silicon Valley innovation via the Startup Island TAIWAN Silicon Valley Hub
    Website: https://sv.startupisland.tw/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/startup-island-taiwan-sv/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Startup-Island-Taiwan-Silicon-Valley-Hub/61586221303202/



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