In this unedited bonus episode, I speak with Catrina McHugh from Open Clasp Theatre about creating activist performance with women affected by exclusion. We discuss how the company’s work has been both incredibly local to the North East of England and has also travelled to audiences from New York to New Zealand. We talk about how amplifying often unheard voices can transcend the prison walls and resonate across geographies.

Host Dr Sarah Bartley Co-host Shona Babyemi Producer Debbie Kilbride Executive Producer Sukey Firth Sound Engineer Max Aspen Original music composed by Rex Horan Visual design Russell Miller

Thanks go to staff at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama, particularly Laura Wardle, Phil Rowe, Samuel Bailey, Bryce Lease, Amy Ryall, and Izzy Stuart.

Stages of Justice was funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council, with additional support from Royal Central School of Speech and Drama.

What are prisons for? In this bonus episode of Stages of Justice, you’ll hear the full conversation with Professor Rosalind Crone about how our ideas of punishment, rehabilitation, and prison education in Britain have developed over time. We explore the role of arts and education in prisons and question how activities inside have been framed in different ways across history.

Host Dr Sarah Bartley Co-host Shona Babyemi Producer Debbie Kilbride Executive Producer Sukey Firth Sound Engineer Max Aspen Original music composed by Rex Horan Visual design Russell Miller

Thanks go to staff at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama, particularly Laura Wardle, Phil Rowe, Samuel Bailey, Bryce Lease, Amy Ryall, and Izzy Stuart.

Stages of Justice was funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council, with additional support from Royal Central School of Speech and Drama.

What can the arts do in prisons? In this bonus episode of Stages of Justice, I speak with Paula Harriott, CEO of Unlock, about her journey from incarceration to advocacy for people with convictions and her encounters with creativity along the way. We explore how justice could move beyond punishment toward healing, the role of arts in human experience, and the importance of including lived experience in reform.

Host Dr Sarah Bartley Co-host Shona Babyemi Producer Debbie Kilbride Executive Producer Sukey Firth Sound Engineer Max Aspen Original music composed by Rex Horan Visual design Russell Miller

Thanks go to staff at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama, particularly Laura Wardle, Phil Rowe, Samuel Bailey, Bryce Lease, Amy Ryall, and Izzy Stuart.

Stages of Justice was funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council, with additional support from Royal Central School of Speech and Drama.