Over the years, I’ve done dozens of stories about the athletic recruiting process. I've focused most of my reporting on Division I, since that’s where the money is—and where most athletes and families put their focus.

But on today’s show, we’ll hear from Marie Fitzgerald and Simon Mackenzie, two decorated high school athletes who played Division III athletics and sing its praises.

I came across Marie and Simon through a podcast they host called “For the Love of Sport,” a show they refer to as their “love letter to youth sports.”

As longtime athletes and coaches, they have a lot to say about the youth sports industry.

On today’s show, they'll share insights on:

➨ How they landed money for college thanks to their college coaches, even though, as DIII athletes, they couldn’t earn athletic scholarships
➨ How they both managed to play multiple sports in college—and, in Marie’s case, earn All-American honors despite not playing at a high level in that sport in high school
➨ How Marie overcame a late start in recruiting to draw interest from multiple NCAA programs
➨ What they would tell younger versions of themselves to make the athletic recruiting process go smoother

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LINKS:

Marie and Simon's podcast:

https://www.sportsengine.com/for-the-love-of-sport-podcast

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My best stories on athletic recruiting:

The Myth of the Sports Scholarship

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-myth-of-the-sports-scholarship/

The Courting of Marvin Clark

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-courting-of-marvin-clark/

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In my decade-plus covering the athletic recruiting business, I’ve probably spent 90 percent of my time focused on Division I.

But there are actually way more opportunities for your kid to play at lower NCAA levels. And Division II, with more than 300 schools, is an increasingly appealing option.

Today’s guest, Lisa Wilson, has coached at just about every imaginable level: From travel ball to two-year colleges to the Power 5.

She is currently the head coach for women’s basketball at a successful Division II program, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, in Florida.

On today’s show, Coach Lisa will explain:

➨ What she learned from working as a travel coach and what she encouraged her players and families to do to appeal to college coaches
➨ Why flexibility is one of the most valuable attributes you can offer a college coach, being willing to set aside your ego to do what’s best for the team, even if it means not getting the playing time you’re looking for right away
➨ The differences between Division I and II players and the importance of getting an honest assessment of your abilities to know what level you’ll be most successful at
➨ How competitive the chase for sports scholarships has become, with coaches having the option of choosing from international players, junior college kids, Division I and II transfers, prep school players — in addition to elite high school athletes
➨ And how you should be thinking about developing as an athlete at various ages, from middle school all the way through college, and what are the best ways to show improvement

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LINKS:

Coach Lisa on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/CoachLisa42

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My best stories on athletic recruiting:

The Myth of the Sports Scholarship

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-myth-of-the-sports-scholarship/

The Courting of Marvin Clark

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-courting-of-marvin-clark/

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On today’s show, we’ll hear from Ron Lieber, a personal finance columnist for The New York Times, whose latest book, “The Price You Pay for College,” should be required reading for anyone with a kid nearing college.

Ron wrote a whole chapter on sports scholarships, and his advice on how to find money for college when your sports scholarship falls short will come in handy for lots of you (trust me, if you don’t know that already, you will soon!).

Ron shares insights on:

➨ How to talk to coaches about money even when your kid has reservations about you asking them
➨ How to tease information out of coaches that can help you understand how much money your family is likely to get
➨ What you should expect to pay for college after all the discounts are applied
➨ The tough conversations you should be having as a family about the cost of college and how soon you should have those conversations
➨ And what questions you should ask college admissions and financial aid officers that can help turn up extra grants and scholarships for your family

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And if you like what you hear, please leave us a review and tell your friends about us!

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LINKS:

Where to buy Ron's book:

https://ronlieber.com/books/the-price-you-pay-for-college/

Ron on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ronlieber

Ron on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/ronlieber

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My best stories on athletic recruiting:

The Myth of the Sports Scholarship

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-myth-of-the-sports-scholarship/

The Courting of Marvin Clark

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-courting-of-marvin-clark/

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Know someone I should interview? Have an idea for a show topic? Hit me up on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/bradwolverton

Thanks for listening!