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In this energising and deeply human conversation, I sit down with the remarkable Katie Godden, rural country girl, educator, public speaker, mum and leadership advocate, to reveal how one powerful pause and one authentic conversation can transform lives. Katie takes us on her journey from primary classrooms in New South Wales to global training rooms and now to leading change one dialogue at a time.

We explore

🧭 Katie’s speak pause respond technique that shifts energy and authority in any room

🧭 The secret power of asking “What is needed here?” before choosing our words

🧭 How tiny, heart-led conversations create grassroots ripples of impact

🧭 Katie’s framework for self-awareness, tuning into your values, your north star and your inner compass

🧭 The messy, scrappy process of testing, pivoting and owning your role whether you’re mum, trainer or CEO

Key Takeaways

⚡ Leadership lives in your pause; responding rather than reacting creates space for real connection

⚡ Awaken your inner compass by asking “What do I need?” and “What do they need?” in every exchange

⚡ Small shifts in tone, timing and intent can redirect someone’s entire trajectory

⚡ True power comes from trusting yourself, leaning into uncertainty and learning as you go

“Lean in and trust yourself, let your voice ignite the change only you can make.” – Katie Godden

📌 Find Katie here

https://katiegodden.com

@katie.godden on Instagram and Facebook

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In this powerful and soulful episode, I sit down with the incredible Jade Varopana Benioni, founder of the Kapa Ora Collective, for a kōrero (conversation) that weaves ancestral wisdom, human design, and purpose-led entrepreneurship.

Jade shares the story of how she transitioned from her first business Unearth Your Worth into the kaupapa-driven Kapa Ora Collective , a re-indigenised, community-centred initiative that honours her Māori and Cook Islands heritage and supports others to lead from their truest self.

We explore:

• The roots and meaning behind the Kapa Ora Collective
• What it means to lead with a “little i” in service of the collective
• How Jade re-indigenised her business by shifting from linear, Western strategies to cyclical, ancestral ones
• The role of human design and gene keys in helping people come home to their natural selves
• The courage it takes to evolve your business and let go of identities that no longer align
• ... And so much more!

Whether you're at a crossroads, feeling the call to realign, or exploring your own whakapapa (roots/ancestry) and purpose, this episode will nourish your wairua (spirit) and spark reflection on how you show up in your life and leadership.

Key Takeaways:

• Leadership isn’t about ego - it’s about honouring your gifts in service of the collective.
• You can reimagine your business by honouring your roots and listening deeply to what wants to emerge.
• Human design and gene keys offer powerful frameworks for returning to your true self.
• Sometimes, evolving means letting go of what once worked in order to step into who you’ve become.

”...pretty much how I’ve built Kapa Ora to this day is listening. And when the visions or the ideas would come, I would action. And if they were easy—if they just popped out—then I’d carry on. Because I knew I was working in alignment with my tūpuna.” – Jade Varopana Benioni

Find Jade here:

https://www.kapaoracollective.com/

@jadebenioni

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