What if quiet quitting isn't really about quitting at all?

In this episode of Right There With You, Cass sits down with Christine Bongard, CEO and Co-Founder of the Women in Transformation (WIT) Network, to explore why so many high performers are quietly disengaging at work.

As layoffs, AI, and constant pressure reshape the workplace, burnout and disengagement are becoming more common—but they're not the same thing. Together, Cass and Christine discuss how leaders can rebuild trust, why communication matters more than ever, and how self-advocacy has become an essential leadership skill.

Whether you're questioning your career, feeling exhausted, or trying to lead others through uncertainty, this conversation offers practical strategies for navigating today's workplace.

In this episode:
• The difference between burnout and disengagement
• Why quiet quitting is often a response to chronic exhaustion
• How leaders can spot burnout before employees leave
• Why self-advocacy feels so exhausting—and how to make it sustainable
• The importance of communicating impact instead of activity
• How AI can strengthen, not replace, authentic leadership
• Why trust is the foundation of healthy workplace culture

Memorable Quotes
✨ "Disengagement isn't laziness. Sometimes it's exhaustion."
✨ "It's not bragging if it's true."
✨ "Your talking points should be about impact—not your to-do list."
✨ "You don't have to disappear in order to survive your success."

Resources
🔗 WIT Network: https://www.thewitnetwork.com/

🔗 Connect with Christine Bongard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cdbongard/

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