A sneak peak from Dr. Kai Chan and occasional co-host Clare Price.

An Invitation from David Suzuki to Connect, Commit, Compete, and Correct Our Way to Sustainability Within and Beyond Our Generation

David Suzuki has spent a lifetime translating the living world for the rest of us, first as a young geneticist, then as a groundbreaking broadcaster, and later as a public advocate for ecological responsibility. In this rich and personal conversation, he looks back with the perspective of someone who has watched societies, institutions, and ecosystems evolve over more than 80 years.

Suzuki speaks candidly with co-hosts Kai Chan and Sam Blackwell about the moments that shaped him: learning early lessons from internment camps in BC; discovering, through the Haida Nation, what it means to live in relationship with place; navigating the constraints of media and politics; and finding clarity in scientific insights like planetary boundaries. Through stories of risking his CBC career, of being mentored and mentoring others, of grassroots movements rising and fading, he paints a portrait of environmental change as both a systems problem and a deeply human one.

The heart of this conversation emerges when Suzuki describes where he finds meaning today. It’s in communities coming together—from seniors taking to the streets on climate action to “Doug’s Winter Party” inspiring gatherings across North America. It’s in watching his grandchildren rediscover the magic of forests and shorelines. And it’s in the humble but profound act of trying: trying to care, trying to act, trying to help communities endure what comes next.

Suzuki doesn't offer easy optimism, nor does he retreat into despair. Instead, he grounds hope in relationship: with the land, with one another, and with future generations who might yet inherit a world worth fighting for.

Bob Watson Discusses Large-Scale Systems Transformation, His Life in Science Assessment, and the Need for Trust in an Anti-Science Era

Global science assessment goes far beyond crunching numbers and tallying up abstract human impacts: it is about convincing the world to act. Recalling his life in leadership with co-hosts Kai Chan (professor and Canada Research Chair at UBC) and Maia O’Donnell (UBC graduate in soil science and producer of the Small Planet Heroes podcast), Robert (Bob) Watson narrates his path from early training in atmospheric chemistry to high-stakes positions at NASA, the White House, and chairing organizations like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES). Bob reveals how speaking up for the environment means rising above politics. Yet confronting so many unknowns, including corruption and intense disparities in power, access, and resources, is often at great personal cost.

In the quest for transformative systems change, Bob reminds us that seeking a consensus while tackling massive problems means making sense of a lot of noise. Much of it is negative, even paralyzing. He asks us instead to answer, whether with our phones, wallets, or simply more open minds, the call for a more grounded, evidence-based, and mindful future for everyone.