“If you lose sight of the humans you’re serving, you’ll build something nobody wants.”

In this episode of Business is Human, Rebecca Fleetwood Hession sits down with entrepreneur Bryan Clayton, whose journey from mowing lawns to building a national tech marketplace reveals what happens when you stay close to the humans you serve. Bryan grew a small lawn care operation into a 10-million sale, then built GreenPal, a platform now used by hundreds of thousands of homeowners and service providers.

Through stories of early mistakes, customer complaints that saved the business, and the surprising complexity of modern home services, Bryan shows why great companies are never built in the abstract. They are built by listening, responding, experimenting, and staying grounded in real human needs. Whether he’s answering the 800 number himself or rewriting product copy at midnight, Bryan embodies a philosophy that sits at the heart of this show. Business works when it works for people.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why staying close to your customer is the most underrated leadership practice
• How negative feedback becomes free research when your nervous system isn’t in self-protection
• What it means to build a business that genuinely helps people raise their quality of life

Things to listen for:

(00:00) Introduction

(03:43) Why real leaders stay close to customer service

(06:10) The surprising realities of shifting into tech entrepreneurship

(08:41) What it takes to change long held habits in traditional industries

(09:58) How staying near the customer keeps your business relevant

(16:16) Seeing feedback as the doorway to growth instead of threat

(20:48) When investor pressure competes with your own instincts

(23:08) Using customer insights to build AI that actually helps people

(28:49) Supporting small business owners on their path to possibility

(32:18) Designing products that start with real human needs

(33:58) Why marketplaces work only when both sides feel served

(35:58) Early lessons that reveal what your customers truly want

Connect with Bryan:

Website: https://www.yourgreenpal.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-clayton-a96b33214/

Connect with Rebecca:

https://www.rebeccafleetwoodhession.com/