The very first episode of Second Half Conversations starts in the most meaningful way possible, with a story. Our story.

In this opening episode, Sondra sits down with Nathan Ziegler, founder of the firm, for a conversation that’s personal, honest, and deeply human.

Nathan shares what it was like growing up in Lubbock, working his way through school running a lawn business, and the path that led him—step by step—into Estate Planning and Elder Law.

But beyond the milestones, this is a conversation about why.

Why this work matters.
Why he calls it “Happy Law.”
And why helping families protect what they’ve built is something he feels deeply responsible for.
It’s a real conversation about purpose, family, and the experiences that shape the way we care for others, and the people we serve.

Highlights from this episode:

Nathan’s journey from modest beginnings to founding the firm

• The story behind “Happy Law” and what it really means
• How personal experiences shaped his approach to estate planning and elder law
• Why thoughtful planning can make a meaningful difference for families
• The values that guide the firm’s work and client relationships

🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube.

The second half of life can be full of meaningful moments—more time with family, new opportunities, and the freedom to focus on what matters most. At the same time, it often brings important questions about planning, caregiving, relationships, and the future.

So that’s exactly what we’re going to talk about.