John and Craig sit down with Ryan Condal, showrunner of House of the Dragon, just as its third season airs.

They dive into Ryan's late start in Hollywood, spec scripts, the anatomy of a writers room, and thinking as a product of movement. They also answer a listener question about the mechanics of writing a sequel.

In our bonus segment for premium subscribers, John, Craig and Ryan discuss perhaps the most popular fictional creatures ever: dragons!

Links:

• I Solved My Mystery Fatigue with AI by Amy Deng
• Myst by Cyan, Rand Miller & Robyn Miller
• Dimhaven by Zadbox Entertainment
• NordVPN
• yU+co – Title sequence designers
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John and Craig welcome Curry Barker, the writer-director behind this summer's surprise blockbuster, Obsession. It's a rom-com, a horror film and a great example of trusting your audience.

We discuss Curry's roots, his writing process, learning from YouTube, as well as the pressure to follow up a hit.

In our bonus segment for premium subscribers, John and Craig pose the #1 most important question for all filmmakers to consider: What will the popcorn bucket be?

Links:

• Aaron Sorkin Masterclass
• The Chair by Curry Barker
• Milk & Serial by Curry Barker
• Humans Veer Left by Rachel Nuwer (NY Times)
• The Case of the Golden Idol
• Members Only Jackets
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This week, Craig answers listener questions about rewriting on set, AI coverage, when and how to kill off characters, sizing up producers, and more.

There's also an extra-special guest appearance for this week's One Cool Thing.

In the bonus segment for premium subscribers, Craig discusses how to be wrong—something he feels he knows all too well.

Links:

• "Widow's Bay" Games: Daddy's Home & Teeth
• "L.A. Law" Elevator Scene
• Ed Wood (1994)
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Why is it so satisfying to watch a highly-skilled character complete their goals? And why can it be equally hilarious to watch an incompetent character bumble through a slew of screw-ups? In this episode, John and Craig discuss how to play with competence in your characters.

We also say goodbye to our producer Drew Marquardt with a thoroughly embarrassing exit interview, and reveal our new producer. However, it's not really goodbye, because Drew will be staying on to work with John on an upcoming project (TBA).

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig deliberate on the question: Should you quit LOUDLY?

Links:
* The attack on competence by Iris Meredith
* Scott Tenorman Must Die (South Park – Season 5, Episode 4)
* Bartosz Ciechanowski's Curves and Surfaces
* Rhubarb Breakfast Dessert by Melissa Clark
* Easiest Citrus Roasted Rhubarb by "Kate Cooks"
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John and Craig welcome writer and showrunner David E. Kelley (Big Little Lies, Ally McBeal) to look at his process for adapting books to TV, particularly with his latest series Margo's Got Money Troubles. They explore where to find your act breaks, crafting complicated tones, and when to trust the writer of the book.

We also look at how TV has changed over David's storied career, how he runs a writers room, creating story engines, the difference between writing for broadcast TV and streaming, and the one thing a TV show should never be.

In our bonus segment for premium members, David coaches John and Craig on how to survive a long running series.

Links:

• David E. Kelley on IMDb
• Margo's Got Money Troubles on AppleTV
• Harvard Alcohol Project: Designated Driver
• The Painful Truth About Long Covid by Alan Levinovitz for WIRED
• Salmon
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John welcomes writer and showrunner Courtney Kemp (Power, Nemesis) to ask, how do you find an audience and build momentum on television? They look at how writers can match their voice to an underserved audience, the pitfalls of being boxed in by a niche, and what new writers can do to get people excited about their work.

We also chart how Courtney built her career from magazine writer to creating the television franchise Power, look at the exciting success of Obsession and Backrooms, and answer listener questions on talking to your reps about financial struggles, and how to find your project's "why now?"

In our bonus segment for premium members, Courtney shot her new show Nemesis entirely in Los Angeles, and you can too!

Links:

• Courtney Kemp on Instagram and Wikipedia
• Nemesis on Netflix
• 'Obsession' Makes History With Biggest Second-Weekend Spike in Modern Times by Pamela McClintock and Lexi Carson for The Hollywood Reporter
• The 'Pitt' Effect: A Scramble to Get Shows Back on Air Faster by Lesley Goldberg for Ankler Media
• Ryan Walker hotel reviews
• Star City
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John welcomes back Phil Hay (Destroyer, The Invitation) to ask, how do you get a movie made with independent financing? They look at how indie movies get made, where you get the money, deciding when to go indie, and whether streamers complicate the picture.

We also follow up on testing movies with focus groups and answer listener questions on how to navigate the editing room, daily routines, and what to do when your story has too many themes.

In our bonus segment for premium members, we look back on what Phil learned about D&D from his documentary The Dungeon Masters.

Links:

• Phil Hay
• Scriptnotes Episode 244, Episode 377, and Episode 505
• The Dungeon Masters
• The Answering Machine Meltdown from Swingers
• John's daily to-do template
• Pamela Ribon's One Act documentary
• Petey USA's The Yips
• KOXY College Radio
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John and Craig welcome back Aline Brosh McKenna (The Devil Wears Prada, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend) to explore the timely questions about art and human labor posed by her long-awaited sequel, The Devil Wears Prada 2. We'll warn you now: Spoilers ahead!

We also look at what AI knitting podcasts can tell us about the future of industrially-produced slop, and answer a listener question on how to approach the engine of a TV show.

In our bonus segment for premium members, what would a hypothetical Scriptnotes Screenplay Club look like? Aline weighs in to make sure the design is impeccable.

That's all.

Links:

• The Devil Wears Prada 2
• Aline Brosh McKenna on Instagram and IMDb
• The Sheep Detectives
• Knitting Bullshit by Kate Davies
• Inception Point AI
• How many E's are in Seventeen? on YouTube
• Inserting yourself into Game of Thrones on Instagram
• One Move God Mode vertical by NetShort
• New York Times Issues Stern Warning to Its Freelance Writers About AI Use by Maggie Harrison Dupré for Futurism
• Jared Freid on TikTok
• The Feed Is Fake by Lane Brown for New York Magazine
• Indigo Girls
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