Science alone does not make environmental change. Amanda Harding and Sarah Glavan of Convene explore the missing space between research, environmental policy, and the decisions people make inside real systems. Using food systems and the EAT-Lancet Commission as a case study, they explain deliberate dialogue and science-policy-society interfaces: structured spaces where researchers, farmers, fishers, Indigenous communities, health professionals, policymakers, and consumers can work through disagreement and power. The episode shows why ecological research cannot simply be handed down as instructions, why lived experience is also a form of knowledge, and how listening can help turn evidence into action. A practical look at what climate solutions require once the science is already available.

Episode Guests: Amanda Harding and Sarah Glavan

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